Wiki/Reviewi For TYN 90K Fixed Redemption Strategies
May 6, 2009, 2:39 pm
#1517
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STL-ORD is a reliable AA or UA throwaway. Usually $50-60 all in, standalone one way ticket. I just plugged it in for June 11th (a random date) and it's there for both of those two.
Seems like all of my airlines have been sending me "$45 one way" emails lately, so there are probably other options. Look for a WN-heavy market for fares that are true standalone one-ways with no R/T required.
Seems like all of my airlines have been sending me "$45 one way" emails lately, so there are probably other options. Look for a WN-heavy market for fares that are true standalone one-ways with no R/T required.
May 14, 2009, 8:02 pm
#1518
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 42
AA does not charge you the ticketing fee when you have to pay the change fee. At least that is my experience. I changed my ticket at city travel center, the agent only charged the $150 change fee. I asked, she said only the highest fee applied. The same has been verified by several posters on AA forum in the past. You may be able to find the posts using search.
Also, AA does not charge the ticketing fee the next time you use the residual voucher for another ticket. I just did this 3 weeks ago.
Besides, the maximum ticketing fee you would incur, if that is the case, would be $20 for the first ticket, given the second ticket would be from the residual voucher, no ticketing fee if the OC voucher is the payment form.
Therefore, all you lose, is your time. I certainly would ticket at the counter if my residual voucher would worth couple thousand bucks, as you already know, if the voucher is lost in mail, it is LOST. The voucher is just like CASH - if AA said it issued it, mailed it, but you haven't received it - too bad.
Also, AA does not charge the ticketing fee the next time you use the residual voucher for another ticket. I just did this 3 weeks ago.
Besides, the maximum ticketing fee you would incur, if that is the case, would be $20 for the first ticket, given the second ticket would be from the residual voucher, no ticketing fee if the OC voucher is the payment form.
Therefore, all you lose, is your time. I certainly would ticket at the counter if my residual voucher would worth couple thousand bucks, as you already know, if the voucher is lost in mail, it is LOST. The voucher is just like CASH - if AA said it issued it, mailed it, but you haven't received it - too bad.
One question though. How important is the actual paper voucher? I figured you only needed the 'Stock Control Number' from the paper voucher so if you did lose it, you just need to reference that # for future bookings. Is this accurate?
Last edited by Fold0rDie; May 14, 2009 at 8:12 pm
May 14, 2009, 8:25 pm
#1519
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May 14, 2009, 9:02 pm
#1520
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Are all future residual purchases done only at the counter then where you might need proof of the paper voucher?
May 14, 2009, 9:37 pm
#1521
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Or, if you are like me, who does not trust the USPS to handle my cash equivalent in thousands of dollars, trot down to the airport to ticket it. I am sorry to learn the agent charged you $35 for the first rebooking. I believe the agent made an error in charging you the ticketing fee. We did not get charged. If you do a search in AA forum on this topic, you probably will find past posts about AA NOT charge ticketing fee when payment made by a cancelled ticket credit.
I do know the 2nd and subsequent tickets there is NO counter ticketing fee when paid by the residual voucher. It is verified by another FTer and my own experience - I did it in late March. However, if you use the voucher to buy something other than ticket, such as an upgrade sticker, the new residual voucher would LOSE its characteristic, and turn into a DIFFERENT TYPE of voucher - and you will pay counter ticketing fee.
Here is the link for AA Wiki. Voucher is the last alpha on the Wiki.
http://flyerguide.com/wiki/index.php...rican_Airlines
Though it mainly talks about Transportation Vouchers (from being bumped), not the residual value voucher from cancelled tickets, some information such as the Cash equivalent part and the mailing address still apply.
Last edited by Happy; May 14, 2009 at 9:45 pm
May 20, 2009, 5:22 am
#1523
Join Date: Aug 2004
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need clarification of expiration date of DL ecredit
searched and did not find....posted in Delta forum a few days ago, no reply so hoping someone here knows the answer....My Delta ecredit expires on Sept 5, 2009. Does that mean I can book a flight up until that time, paying by ecredit by Sept 5, and the flight can be as long as 330 days after that date? Or must I fly by Sept 5?
Thanks!
Thanks!
May 20, 2009, 5:43 am
#1524
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searched and did not find....posted in Delta forum a few days ago, no reply so hoping someone here knows the answer....My Delta ecredit expires on Sept 5, 2009. Does that mean I can book a flight up until that time, paying by ecredit by Sept 5, and the flight can be as long as 330 days after that date? Or must I fly by Sept 5?
Thanks!
Thanks!
May 27, 2009, 6:26 pm
#1525
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 16
Hi all,
I appologize in advance if this has been covered (and i'm sure it has), but I've spent at least 30 minutes reading through posts and haven't found a clear answer.
I have a few question...
* It seems as though if I book a ticket through TY on UA, I WILL get EQM for the flight (double eqm's on UA right now too), is that correct?
* It looks like there was a sweet loophole around buying a non-refundable ticket and then cancelling it to get the credits up until March, but it seems that I have missed that. There's no way to take advantage of that anymore, is there?
* followup: Is it best to just take whatever flight I actually want to fly and go with that? or is there another way to work the system now?
* Is there any way I can use TY credit to bump up a (domestic) flight from coach to first? Can I book a ticket in first directly? Or is that just a terrible idea?
Thanks much!
Steven
I appologize in advance if this has been covered (and i'm sure it has), but I've spent at least 30 minutes reading through posts and haven't found a clear answer.
I have a few question...
* It seems as though if I book a ticket through TY on UA, I WILL get EQM for the flight (double eqm's on UA right now too), is that correct?
* It looks like there was a sweet loophole around buying a non-refundable ticket and then cancelling it to get the credits up until March, but it seems that I have missed that. There's no way to take advantage of that anymore, is there?
* followup: Is it best to just take whatever flight I actually want to fly and go with that? or is there another way to work the system now?
* Is there any way I can use TY credit to bump up a (domestic) flight from coach to first? Can I book a ticket in first directly? Or is that just a terrible idea?
Thanks much!
Steven
May 31, 2009, 11:16 pm
#1526
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I think I can answer most of your points, except the first one about UA because I'm totally unfamiliar with UA - mayber another FTer can answer that for you.
Hi all,
I appologize in advance if this has been covered (and i'm sure it has), but I've spent at least 30 minutes reading through posts and haven't found a clear answer.
I have a few question...
* It seems as though if I book a ticket through TY on UA, I WILL get EQM for the flight (double eqm's on UA right now too), is that correct?
* It looks like there was a sweet loophole around buying a non-refundable ticket and then cancelling it to get the credits up until March, but it seems that I have missed that. There's no way to take advantage of that anymore, is there?
I believe there isn't any possible way of taking advantage of that loophole anymore because fixed flights has been discontinued so you basically 'buy' flights on Expedia with your TYP's for 1 cpp including all taxes and fees - unless there's some new way of milking the system that has been uncovered, but I don't know about yet, then the short answer is NO
* followup: Is it best to just take whatever flight I actually want to fly and go with that? or is there another way to work the system now?
The answer would basically be the same as above - and yes, you should probably cash in your TYP's for flights you will fly and go with that.
* Is there any way I can use TY credit to bump up a (domestic) flight from coach to first? Can I book a ticket in first directly? Or is that just a terrible idea?
No, you cannot use TYP's for an upgrade. However, you can use airline mileage to upgrade an economy ticket purchased with TYP's (but know the rules of each airline with regard to which booking classes can be upgraded, if there are any fees in addition to miles, etc...). You can 'buy' First or Business directly with TYP's if your willing to fork over that many points - the cost will be whatever it prices out on Expedia x100 points, so for example a $2000 fare would cost your 200,000 points.
Thanks much!
Steven
I appologize in advance if this has been covered (and i'm sure it has), but I've spent at least 30 minutes reading through posts and haven't found a clear answer.
I have a few question...
* It seems as though if I book a ticket through TY on UA, I WILL get EQM for the flight (double eqm's on UA right now too), is that correct?
* It looks like there was a sweet loophole around buying a non-refundable ticket and then cancelling it to get the credits up until March, but it seems that I have missed that. There's no way to take advantage of that anymore, is there?
I believe there isn't any possible way of taking advantage of that loophole anymore because fixed flights has been discontinued so you basically 'buy' flights on Expedia with your TYP's for 1 cpp including all taxes and fees - unless there's some new way of milking the system that has been uncovered, but I don't know about yet, then the short answer is NO
* followup: Is it best to just take whatever flight I actually want to fly and go with that? or is there another way to work the system now?
The answer would basically be the same as above - and yes, you should probably cash in your TYP's for flights you will fly and go with that.
* Is there any way I can use TY credit to bump up a (domestic) flight from coach to first? Can I book a ticket in first directly? Or is that just a terrible idea?
No, you cannot use TYP's for an upgrade. However, you can use airline mileage to upgrade an economy ticket purchased with TYP's (but know the rules of each airline with regard to which booking classes can be upgraded, if there are any fees in addition to miles, etc...). You can 'buy' First or Business directly with TYP's if your willing to fork over that many points - the cost will be whatever it prices out on Expedia x100 points, so for example a $2000 fare would cost your 200,000 points.
Thanks much!
Steven
Jun 6, 2009, 7:57 am
#1527
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 6
Schedule change and $140 drop in Fare on a nonrefundable CO Trip-
We booked 5 CO tickets using my TY Points and the flights have had a few minor schedule changes as well as dropped in price by $140 each, can I use the schedule change to cancel the tickets and request a travel certificate then rebook those tickets for all 5 people. Will that leave me with a useable $700 in Travel Vouchers for whomever I wish.
Jun 7, 2009, 9:14 pm
#1528
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I did a CO redemption and may need to cancel and rebook soon. Is is better to cancel and rebook over phone or over airport counter? Also is there a way to get the $150 change fee waived (my itinerary didn't have a major schedule change yet)? TIA.
Jun 11, 2009, 12:57 pm
#1530
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SFO/SJC, CA
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Let me try the first one.
* It seems as though if I book a ticket through TY on UA, I WILL get EQM for the flight (double eqm's on UA right now too), is that correct?
Most tickets/fare should do. (check fare rule)
(I don't beleive you can easily find a "more" discounted fare in Expedia/TY that does not earn EQM)
* It seems as though if I book a ticket through TY on UA, I WILL get EQM for the flight (double eqm's on UA right now too), is that correct?
Most tickets/fare should do. (check fare rule)
(I don't beleive you can easily find a "more" discounted fare in Expedia/TY that does not earn EQM)