eknock007

Datapoint:

Approved today using link #3. Was not instant approval. Had to call it in (live chat) to ok lower credit line. Confirmed signup offer of 50k.

Recent AA cards:

AA Platinum Visa: opened 12/2012 closed 1/15/2015 (had my dates wrong from earlier post).
AA Exec (Elite): opened 2/2014, closed 1/21/2015.
AA Exec (Elite): opened 6/2014, still open.
AA Biz: opened 12/2014, still open.

Hope this info encourages more people to apply. Kudos to earlier posters who provided tips.

Will update post when spend is met and miles credited.

IkeEsq

Am I correct that you only ever had one previous Business card? If so, this denial does not really tell us anything new, I don't think. People have been getting these kinds of denials for years on second Business cards (although I do not know the exact language on the letter.) Until someone who has been successfully churning Business cards is no longer able to, it is difficult to tell if anything has changed.

Superorb

Yup, that's what it's looking like. And if you had an AA Biz card that you've closed that login is now dead and cannot be reused.

beltway

The above description is only partially correct. For details, see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/citi-...nt-online.html and the wiki therein.

mizzou1

Long before adding language about churning restriction, Citi had started denying bonus to new applicants who had or had recently closed another AAdvantage Platinum card. So the emphasis in wiki that some of the application links do not have the explicit churning restriction language might be misleading, as not having that language doesn't mean churning using those links would work. Am I missing something?

levilevi

Does this sound correct to anyone: to get checked bag/Group 1 boarding benefits, you need to have the card before booking?

I.E., I booked a flight (its tomorrow) back in November on a diff. card, but applied/approved/activated the card early December. I'm told that those benefits apply regardless of how I PAID for the flight, but only if I had the card at the time of booking (at least 7 days prior).

This sounds weird to me - I have no prior experience with Citi/AA - been a Delta/Amex guy, and they just need you to have the account active when you check in to receive those benefits.

The Citi rep did offer a $50 statement credit for my troubles and to offset the checked baggage fees, but seemed curious, as I have other AA trips upcoming, but booked PRIOR to this card being active.

jacobsta811

Right, only one business card previously. You may be right, but as long as the first set of links without the restrictive language still work it seems silly to use the new links for a repeat business application and to risk denial based on that factor. The letter seems oddly specific if it isn't caused by the new links, and I'd definitely like to see the full contents of a denial letter based on the old links for comparison.

beltway

That is not my recollection at all.

sdsearch

You have your facts (about the past) messed up.

First of all, Citi didn't deny bonuses, rather they denied the card itself (that had a bonus). Citi letting you get the card yet denying you the bonus is very new (IIRC, it started on the Exec card, not sure if it's spread wider yet or not).

Second of all, Citi didn't use to care about closing (of personal cards) at all until this recent language (and, in fact, it still hasn't been proven that they do care through datapoints, all we have is the language so far**). Citi, until recently, only cared about how long it had been since you had last opened any* AA non-Exec personal card (whether you still had it open or not was irrelevant).

*I am referring here to the rules as they existed for most of the last few years. There was a brief window of time a couple years ago where the rules were temporarily relaxed even further. And, of course, a decade ago it was a free-for-all with Citi AA cards.

** Citi language and reality have often not matched up before, so we are hesitant to conclude that the new language must be correct without any datapoints that test it.

maddie5218

Has anybody been able to get the 25k bonus for the Citi AA Gold credit card after having the Plat? The only terms I see are: American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles are not available if you have had a Citi® / AAdvantage® Gold MasterCard® opened or closed in the past 18 months.

Thoughts?

My friend is kinda desperate for some AA miles right now so this would help a lot if she can get this card.

flyerwanabe1

Applied AA Visa August 2013, closed August 2014. Tried today using link 1, denied due to previously having the aadvantage card, link 3, denied, haven't checked reason yet.

Will try again I guess next March when 18 months is up.

Brugge

Do you mean you did both apps today? If so, the second app would be automatically denied. Citi will not approve more than 1 app in 8 days, and no more than 2 apps in 65 days. That includes denied apps just as much as approved apps.

ctdohert2

I am looking to apply for the CitiBusiness card. I have never had a business card with them before, but multiple Exec in the past year all closed last in Oct. I was going to use Link 1 with the understanding the past personal cards don't matter. I also want to try another Exec 8 days later...Do you think the new link is the way to go or should I try using the churnable one. I apologize if this seems simple, some things I just can't wrap my brain around...Thanks

beltway

Which means forget about trying again in March, flyerwanabe1. Until you start staying clear of the 8/65 rule, you're just digging a deeper hole for yourself.

IkeEsq

I would think that if you never had a Business card then Link #5 is the way to go. $2000 spend rather than $3000. Churnability only really matters on second and successive applications. Personal cards should have no effect on being able to get Business cards under any of the links.

Likewise, the Business card should have no effect on the Exec application.