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Originally Posted by G-CIVC
(Post 27137346)
I've found that the HKIA desk to be quite helpful (and definitely much more helpful compared to the hotline). Not sure if I can describe in detail since I don't know if what the staff did was allowed, but they definitely gave me a lot more information than those on the phone regarding waitlist clearance and loads etc ;)
Thanks for the tip! I'll be at HKIA anyways on Sun, maybe i'll go speak to someone at the CX desk.. x |
Originally Posted by G-CIVC
(Post 27137346)
I've found that the HKIA desk to be quite helpful (and definitely much more helpful compared to the hotline). Not sure if I can describe in detail since I don't know if what the staff did was allowed, but they definitely gave me a lot more information than those on the phone regarding waitlist clearance and loads etc ;)
can anyone help check for upgrade availability on 21/10/16 lax-hkg on flight cx883? both wife and I are on the wait list as separate booking reference #'s. thanks in advance! |
It's not immediately available now.
Upgrade same availablity as straight redemption, only different priority: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...l#post22897273 |
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 27110320)
This morning I encountered a pretty extreme example of withholding from partners. This time it's affecting QF FF as well as BAEC:
31/12 HKG-KIX AM: At least 6 seats on each of CX562 and 594 (I can go all the way down to payment page this time) http://www.hongkongcard.com/webedito...5516_29783.png BA: one seat on CX562 (result is the same no matter which country of residence is used, I tried switching) http://www.hongkongcard.com/webedito...5620_89652.png QF: not more than 1 seat (if one seat, CX562 was available) http://www.hongkongcard.com/webedito...5704_87617.png If CX continues with this I see fewer opportunities for burning Avios. Basically, the airlines have learned expensive lesson that showing true availibility for redemption bookings is costly, because of the very large numbers of searches people do. True availability requires a call back to the revenue management system, taking into account POS/POC/frequent flyer tier/ currency/ current demand/ supply balance etc etc So rather than show each other the true availability on search, you use a cache, and only update the cache when required. But there is then a risk that the cache and reality are out of sync, and when pax actually makes booking, so sorry, not available. The way to reduce this risk is to be conservative on what the cache shows. So even if CX has 6 seats, you tell your partners you only have 1. And you only need to update the cache when you go to 0, (or more seats opened up) rather than updating the cache from 6 to 4 back up to 5 etc. |
Originally Posted by peasant
(Post 27138721)
Not necessarily. This could just be a side effect of cacheing.
Originally Posted by peasant
(Post 27138721)
True availability requires a call back to the revenue management system, taking into account POS/POC/frequent flyer tier/ currency/ current demand/ supply balance etc etc
But what isn't oneworld or its members throwing out the window these days?
Originally Posted by peasant
(Post 27138721)
So rather than show each other the true availability on search, you use a cache, and only update the cache when required. But there is then a risk that the cache and reality are out of sync, and when pax actually makes booking, so sorry, not available.
The way to reduce this risk is to be conservative on what the cache shows. So even if CX has 6 seats, you tell your partners you only have 1. And you only need to update the cache when you go to 0, (or more seats opened up) rather than updating the cache from 6 to 4 back up to 5 etc. Since there's no way for me to test the theory cost free (well, short of booking BAEC and then cancelling within 24 hours) I didn't really try. But it'd be horrible for planning purposes if CX is really drip-feeding availablity to its partners - are we all going to have to "test" CX availability on BAEC and cancelling if we get it wrong? |
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 27110320)
This morning I encountered a pretty extreme example of withholding from partners. This time it's affecting QF FF as well as BAEC:
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 27138696)
It's not immediately available now.
Upgrade same availablity as straight redemption, only different priority: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...l#post22897273 |
stupid question, but how do you know they've cleared your waitlist. Do they call? Text? Email? Do you keep watching BA for award space and call back? Curious as to the earliest they've ever cleared your waitlist.
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Originally Posted by ManFactSpendLA
(Post 27149533)
stupid question, but how do you know they've cleared your waitlist. Do they call? Text? Email? Do you keep watching BA for award space and call back? Curious as to the earliest they've ever cleared your waitlist.
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Regarding waitlisting on a CX flight as an MPC member:
I made a request for an award booking in J class for my mum a CX return flight from HKG to LHR in December (peak period, I know) back in July, while she was still a basic Green member. She recently re-qualified as a Silver member last week. Does this upgrade in status affect her chances at nabbing a seat here? |
Originally Posted by limeca
(Post 27231056)
Regarding waitlisting on a CX flight as an MPC member:
I made a request for an award booking in J class for my mum a CX return flight from HKG to LHR in December (peak period, I know) back in July, while she was still a basic Green member. She recently re-qualified as a Silver member last week. Does this upgrade in status affect her chances at nabbing a seat here? |
Originally Posted by Mafai
(Post 27232086)
Just a higher priority. Subject to a lot of the usual variables
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 27232698)
I hesitated from answering this question cos I'm not sure if OP has to re-waitlist.
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 27232698)
I hesitated from answering this question cos I'm not sure if OP has to re-waitlist.
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Hey there - hope someone can help me... I've been waitlisted for a J award on CX101 HKG to SYD on 16 OCT 2016 for several months. Award availability in J for the week of 16 OCT is showing nothing at all, so I guess my chances are not so good :(
Would anyone be able to look into J loadings for this flight and give me some visibility? |
J9 C7 D9 I3
Actually they should have I9 (cathaypacific.com) |
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 27250244)
J9 C7 D9 I3
Actually they should have I9 (cathaypacific.com) |
Is there any way for me to check the seat map if the only available awards ticket it's on QR and BA? I tried the payment page and there isn't any seat selection option.
Thanks! |
BA you have to pay for it be ow elite
QR on QR MMB |
Hi,
newbie to the page. Would someone be so kind and check the loadings for 1)17 Oct 2016 CX135 2) 18 Oct 2016 CX135 3) 03 Nov 2016 CX105 4) 13 Nov 2016 CX175 Thanks so much |
1) J1 W8 Y9
2) J9 W1 Y9 3) J9 W3 Y9 4) Flight does not exist |
Thanks so much. Sorry meant CX 178 on 13 Nov
How does 23rd or 24th Nov CX104 look like? |
4) j9 w9 y9
23/11 cx104: J9 w9 y9 24/11 cx104: J9 w9 y9 |
Thanks again! really appreciate it.
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Can we waitlist multiple flights for a multi leg award and then piece it together when the waitlist clears for all of them? assuming it does
what are the chances of clearing this waitlist? CX567 OR 503 22/11 AND CX171 KIX - HKG - PER for 2 people. thanks |
Sure but you have to build it by phone not online
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 27274805)
Sure but you have to build it by phone not online
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Originally Posted by kkl
(Post 27277315)
What if I build it online leg per leg and then call up to get it ticketed once all clear?
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 27277529)
Won't be the same PNR - AM call cantre can only redeem it as two redemptions.
Also can please check the loads for these flights what are the chances of clearing this waitlist? CX567 OR 503 22/11 AND CX171 KIX - HKG - PER for 2 people. Thanks |
Err CX171 immediately available in redemption Y and PE
CX567 in redemption Y and J and CX503 in redemption J CX171 is currently J9 |
Possible to lock in a mix PE/J award booking and wait for waitlists to clear for J?
Also is there a specific time everyday they open their inventory? thanks for the help |
Can't lock. You will be forced to issue PE and reissue J if it is subsequently released.
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 27278672)
Can't lock. You will be forced to issue PE and reissue J if it is subsequently released.
Also what fee would i be looking @? the USD100? or USD25? |
Originally Posted by kkl
(Post 27279197)
I can hold the ticket till the issue dateline right?
Also what fee would i be looking @? the USD100? or USD25? |
Little tip I just learned. I had set some waitlist reservations. I just learned that they expire without notification.
So as my target flight is getting close, I took a look and see they they just disappeared. With no notice. :-( So... worth keeping an eye on that. |
Hi there,
Confirmed on CX906/19Nov and waitlisted for CX907 both in Y. Loading for 907/20Nov is J9 C7 D6 I3 W9 R9 E9 Y9 B9 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0. How realistic is it to waitlist as a MPC GO? Or should I go ahead call MPC to redeem mixed class Y/PEY? |
Originally Posted by Gongzuokuang
(Post 27341340)
Little tip I just learned. I had set some waitlist reservations. I just learned that they expire without notification.
So as my target flight is getting close, I took a look and see they they just disappeared. With no notice. :-( So... worth keeping an eye on that. |
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Originally Posted by Gongzuokuang
(Post 27341340)
Little tip I just learned. I had set some waitlist reservations. I just learned that they expire without notification.
So as my target flight is getting close, I took a look and see they they just disappeared. With no notice. :-( So... worth keeping an eye on that. * exception is when you've already issued a ticket and you're waiting for another flight, same route and same class for rebooking. E.g. my mother has the 8am from Sydney in beginning of Jan and is waiting for 11am and 3pm. |
Hi Experts, I am hoping to do a redemption on PE class on the below flights, what are my chances like?
28/01/17 - CX659 HKG - SIN 01/02/17 - CX650 SIN - HKG I need to fly on these dates, does it work if I book myself on the same flight itineraries paying for them and at the same time try my lucky on redemption waitlist? and cancel the paid bookings if I managed to get the waitlist? Thank you in advance! |
Chinese New Year? Forget it and just go with revenue if you must travel on those dates.
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