Jan 5, 2024, 11:41 am
Last edit by: Prospero
For the latest updates and discussion related to the champagnes on offer, please visit the sister thread linked below
JFK Chelsea Lounge | la mise à jour du champagne
JFK Chelsea Lounge | la mise à jour du champagne
British Airways and American Airlines Chelsea Lounge - JFK Terminal 8
Dec 16, 2022, 9:40 pm
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From the link, I also realized that AA CK could also access the lounges when flying Economy on a route like JFK-MIA-LAX or JFK-DFW-KOA which apparently the unwritten BA GGL rule imposed by the agents says "no access on domestic at all".
Dec 16, 2022, 9:57 pm
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For AA CK, at least the rules are clear here: https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...um-lounges.jsp
From the link, I also realized that AA CK could also access the lounges when flying Economy on a route like JFK-MIA-LAX or JFK-DFW-KOA which apparently the unwritten BA GGL rule imposed by the agents says "no access on domestic at all".
From the link, I also realized that AA CK could also access the lounges when flying Economy on a route like JFK-MIA-LAX or JFK-DFW-KOA which apparently the unwritten BA GGL rule imposed by the agents says "no access on domestic at all".
Dec 16, 2022, 10:15 pm
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Dec 16, 2022, 11:44 pm
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I was looking forward to visiting these new lounges next week - now I wish I had just flown direct to LAX!
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Dec 17, 2022, 1:41 am
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Dec 17, 2022, 1:45 am
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Dec 17, 2022, 1:58 am
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Amazing that AA and BA still have not sorted this out. That said, the Chelsea lounge sounds so sub par that I’m just going to fly J on my next NYC-LON flight and will try out/enjoy the Soho.
Dec 17, 2022, 10:34 am
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Somewhat reminds me when Bonvoy was created and they originally made all legacy Marriott members LT titaniums and SPG members LT platinums. Half-baked and not consistent. My view - establish clear-cut rules and consistently apply them. It truly is fascinating that this wasn’t hashed out.
Dec 17, 2022, 11:19 am
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I don't quite understand the irkness of this for the GGLs, this is never something you had, a top level lounge on AA Domestic (barely a lounge at all if flying Flagship from SFO), so why so angry about "losing" a benefit you never had? It seems as if the annoyance is with some out of date documentation on the BA website.
And also, it doesn't sound like it was a benefit worth having, given the crappy Chelsea lounge now...
And also, it doesn't sound like it was a benefit worth having, given the crappy Chelsea lounge now...
Dec 17, 2022, 11:31 am
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It seems like there are certainly teething issues regarding access which should have been resolved before the move. I would imagine those will be resolved and settled in due time, although that's not much comfort to people flying now. Leaving AA/BA permanently as a result seems bizarre to me - if you're upset about access or quality of offerings in the various BA lounges, I'm not sure you're going to be impressed with the VS lounge!
Dec 17, 2022, 11:44 am
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On the Krug - does seem like there’s quite possibly a shortage of it in New York. I was just doing some pre-NYE reconnaissance and of four reputable wine stores in Manhattan, only one has the NV available, and it’s $290/bottle.
That said, I haven’t bought any champagne at street retail in a while, the prices across the board seem to have gone a bit bonkers. Lanson is like $60! LPGS, which 5-10 years ago I could regularly get for $125 (+ sales tax) is almost twice that! Was recently at Taittinger in Reims and they were selling the 2012 Comtes de Chanpagne for €210 which I thought was quite high (I was getting earlier vintages for ~$160 a few years ago). Nope, that was $230 (not much of a bargain at the House).
So all the duty free prices I’ve been seeing recently (at LHR and CDG), which to me generally seemed to not be much of a discount, are in fact good deals vs where prices have gone recently. Yikes. But perhaps it’s just a seasonal spike.
May just stick with Prosecco or a Cremant.
That said, I haven’t bought any champagne at street retail in a while, the prices across the board seem to have gone a bit bonkers. Lanson is like $60! LPGS, which 5-10 years ago I could regularly get for $125 (+ sales tax) is almost twice that! Was recently at Taittinger in Reims and they were selling the 2012 Comtes de Chanpagne for €210 which I thought was quite high (I was getting earlier vintages for ~$160 a few years ago). Nope, that was $230 (not much of a bargain at the House).
So all the duty free prices I’ve been seeing recently (at LHR and CDG), which to me generally seemed to not be much of a discount, are in fact good deals vs where prices have gone recently. Yikes. But perhaps it’s just a seasonal spike.
May just stick with Prosecco or a Cremant.
Dec 17, 2022, 12:13 pm
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The Chelsea Lounge last Friday was a great disappointment. Susan & Michael remain excellent however. The bar team were jovial and positive.
Chelsea is a big step down for BA vs JFK CCR and a small step up for AA. It is too small (it is not overcrowded - it is just too small!!!). The food list is like going to a mediocre restaurant in Wimbledon whereas JFK CCR was highbrow Guinea Grill style.
I fly F transatlantic with BA on average every 3 weeks. I am now going to book AA from JFK to LDN and BA from LDN to JFK. I always walk with my feet.
This opens up an opportunity for a new airline to grab the F passengers, if they can get the slots and space. Still, it doesn't take much space it seems......
EDIT: They had no Krug. Quelle suprise.
Chelsea is a big step down for BA vs JFK CCR and a small step up for AA. It is too small (it is not overcrowded - it is just too small!!!). The food list is like going to a mediocre restaurant in Wimbledon whereas JFK CCR was highbrow Guinea Grill style.
I fly F transatlantic with BA on average every 3 weeks. I am now going to book AA from JFK to LDN and BA from LDN to JFK. I always walk with my feet.
This opens up an opportunity for a new airline to grab the F passengers, if they can get the slots and space. Still, it doesn't take much space it seems......
EDIT: They had no Krug. Quelle suprise.
Dec 17, 2022, 12:34 pm
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The Chelsea Lounge last Friday was a great disappointment. Susan & Michael remain excellent however. The bar team were jovial and positive.
Chelsea is a big step down for BA vs JFK CCR and a small step up for AA. It is too small (it is not overcrowded - it is just too small!!!). The food list is like going to a mediocre restaurant in Wimbledon whereas JFK CCR was highbrow Guinea Grill style.
I fly F transatlantic with BA on average every 3 weeks. I am now going to book AA from JFK to LDN and BA from LDN to JFK. I always walk with my feet.
This opens up an opportunity for a new airline to grab the F passengers, if they can get the slots and space. Still, it doesn't take much space it seems......
EDIT: They had no Krug. Quelle suprise.
Chelsea is a big step down for BA vs JFK CCR and a small step up for AA. It is too small (it is not overcrowded - it is just too small!!!). The food list is like going to a mediocre restaurant in Wimbledon whereas JFK CCR was highbrow Guinea Grill style.
I fly F transatlantic with BA on average every 3 weeks. I am now going to book AA from JFK to LDN and BA from LDN to JFK. I always walk with my feet.
This opens up an opportunity for a new airline to grab the F passengers, if they can get the slots and space. Still, it doesn't take much space it seems......
EDIT: They had no Krug. Quelle suprise.