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Old Feb 11, 2021, 1:37 pm
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September 2021 update:

Suspensions of all remaining LGW short haul services further extended to 26 March 2022, with the exception of: one daily MAN-LGW-MAN rotation (BA2509/BA2508) and one daily GLA-LGW-GLA rotation (BA2511/BA2512)

Many LGW short haul routes will continue to operate from LHR in the meantime; exceptions are ALC/CGN/DBV/GOA, which have been suspended until 26th March 2022 ie these destinations will not operated by BA this Winter.







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Old Jun 21, 2020, 1:16 pm
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Hearing LGW cabin crew are being trained on the B787.
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 1:52 pm
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Hearing LGW cabin crew are being trained on the B787.
Now that would be interesting...
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 3:52 pm
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I wonder would that simply be a decrease in capacity for the LGW routes or a complete switch over? So BGI/ANU/MCO etc going to LHR to compete with Virgin, and the thinner LHR routes moving to LGW (MSY/PIT/DUR).
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 5:13 pm
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I wonder would that simply be a decrease in capacity for the LGW routes or a complete switch over? So BGI/ANU/MCO etc going to LHR to compete with Virgin, and the thinner LHR routes moving to LGW (MSY/PIT/DUR).
Interesting. Could be 777s to LHR to fill gaps left by 747s and 380s and so some 787s to LGW to compensate?

Or another theory - stick the 787s on short haul to wherever the UK has air bridges for the summer - Greece, Spain, Italy etc.?

I can’t help thinking the thinner US routes are not going to return for a while. And the indications are that South Africa won’t be reopening soon.
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 6:02 pm
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Well I can’t see them training LGW crews just for a couple of months work. So I’d imagine the 787s at LGW will be a longer term move.

They can then move the 777s up to LHR to replace the 747s. The LGW frames are very dense (336 seats) and not premium heavy so will work well in the current climate. They’re also refurbished down the back.

We will then probably see a shift of a few routes up to LHR (Barbados and Bermuda spring to mind). The remaining LGW routes can be operated by the 787 (I assume -8) with probably a few new additions coming from LHR (Bangkok and Durban maybe).
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 6:09 pm
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Well I can’t see them training LGW crews just for a couple of months work. So I’d imagine the 787s at LGW will be a longer term move.
Is it possible that it will be the cc moving between the two airports rather than the planes?
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 6:13 pm
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Is it possible that it will be the cc moving between the two airports rather than the planes?
That is a good point actually. I didn’t think of that.
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 7:21 pm
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Is it possible that it will be the cc moving between the two airports rather than the planes?
Not too uncommon for LHR crews to be sent down to LGW to do a flight!

The LHR crew would report at LHR as normal, then would get on a bus to LGW to do the flight. After they return back to LGW, they hop on a bus back to LHR and go on their merry way..

The training centre is going to be busy when crew start to come back having do recency courses, and retraining the 747 crew on the A350 or A380 possibly.. I don’t think they could fit in a 787 course for LGW crew.
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 7:50 pm
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So is this more of the case that the LGW crew will do 787 flights from LHR while the demand at Gatwick is low?
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Old Jun 22, 2020, 12:22 am
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LGW has its on training school.
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Old Jun 22, 2020, 12:33 am
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I gues 340 seat 777s are now too big for the COVID travel market.
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Old Jun 22, 2020, 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by Can I help you
Hearing LGW cabin crew are being trained on the B787.
Where have you heard this?
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Old Jun 22, 2020, 6:58 am
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Where have you heard this?
Galley FM, or its modern equivalent, is my guess,
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Old Jun 22, 2020, 10:34 am
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Glad to hear it. Do you know how reduced the staffing levels will be? Major cut or just the standard 30% reduction?
Almost 50% of managerial roles, on ground and in the air. Ground staff above the wing gone to GGS. Possible cuts to Engineering too. Everyone else, 30%ish less.
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Old Jun 28, 2020, 9:04 am
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Seems to be some sad news today about the impacts on the BA flight deck crews and possible impacts for Gatwick

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...he-sun-reports

British Airways, a unit of International Consolidated Airlines Group, will cut 350 pilots and put another 300 in a “pool” for re-hire when needed as part of a deal reached with cockpit crew, The Sun reported.

Most of the pilots facing compulsory redundancies worked from Gatwick airport in London, according to the report, which didn’t say where the information came from. Captains and first officers who are placed in the pool don’t currently have an aircraft to work on and will remain on half-pay, while all other operating flight crew will take a 15% pay cut for now, it said.
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