Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
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Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
May 20, 2018, 3:19 am
#2341
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I'm not a Muslim, nor do I know very much about its rules - but ISTR that there is an exemption from travellers, so maybe you'll be OK.
May 20, 2018, 3:23 am
#2342
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Ramadan has already started so water would be completely out too. However in terms of doctrine, it's ok to eat and drink when travelling, so long as you are away from home for less than 5 days. Just add the missing days to the fasting period to the end, perhaps combined with a charitable donation.
May 20, 2018, 4:30 am
#2343
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Flew from LHR to BHD on Friday and there was a choice of Champagne.
Heidsieck Monopole and Castelnau.
Maybe it's been mentioned earlier in this thread but wasnt aware it was back!
Heidsieck Monopole and Castelnau.
Maybe it's been mentioned earlier in this thread but wasnt aware it was back!
May 20, 2018, 4:42 am
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May 20, 2018, 4:50 am
#2345
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..... I'd also say that unless you share Raffles' scotch-egg-phobia, the Ploughman's meal is very good in my view, I don't think you can rely on photos. However it is very popular so you would need to be seating in the front half of CE to have a good chance of getting it.
And that’s precisely why your comment struck a chord with me c-w-s - although not so much with specific regard to the Ploughman’s meal, but more in relation to CE catering in general.
In short, it made me wonder whether the penny will ever drop with our friends at Waterside that, when a particular item is known to be particularly popular, it might be a rather jolly idea to order and load more of it ; in much the same way that my local supermarket tends to stock more turkeys as Christmas approaches.
It’s a radical thought, I know. But it could mean that customers seated in the second half of the CE cabin (and who have very likely paid the same / similar fare as those seated in the front) might actually get their meal choice, rather than be left disappointed.
May 20, 2018, 5:46 am
#2346
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On my last two flights in CE I have been offered the ploughmans meal sat in row 10 or 11 so its not always the case.
Still to try it as I'm not a huge scotch egg fan but perhaps I should soon as its getting favourable reviews on here.
Still to try it as I'm not a huge scotch egg fan but perhaps I should soon as its getting favourable reviews on here.
May 20, 2018, 12:46 pm
#2347
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LHR-LCA-LHR
BA664 London Heathrow to Larnaca 13th May 2018
CE Breakfast
BA663 Larnaca to London Heathrow 14th May 2018
CE Menu
Starter - Beetroot carpaccio with goat's cheese
Desert - Fresh berry pavlova with vanilla cream
- Cropwell Bishop Stilton cheese with red onion chutney and oat cakes
Main - Chicken tikka masala with safron pilaf and gobi saag
The 663 was served by a very good, nay, excellent crew, led by the amazing L the duty CSD.
CE Breakfast
BA663 Larnaca to London Heathrow 14th May 2018
CE Menu
Starter - Beetroot carpaccio with goat's cheese
Desert - Fresh berry pavlova with vanilla cream
- Cropwell Bishop Stilton cheese with red onion chutney and oat cakes
Main - Chicken tikka masala with safron pilaf and gobi saag
The 663 was served by a very good, nay, excellent crew, led by the amazing L the duty CSD.
May 20, 2018, 1:32 pm
#2348
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Could you give us more info on why/if you have a particular reason to think so? Is it what the crew actually said? I'd like it to be true (I don't like Castelnau but like Monopole even less!) but many flights seem to have both served which strikes me as unlikely in the case of a supply issue where you'd expect the regular supply to run out first then the alternative used as back up or so I'd think?
May 20, 2018, 1:36 pm
#2349
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You’re a heavy CE user, so I’ll happily take your word that it’s “very popular”.
And that’s precisely why your comment struck a chord with me c-w-s - although not so much with specific regard to the Ploughman’s meal, but more in relation to CE catering in general.
In short, it made me wonder whether the penny will ever drop with our friends at Waterside that, when a particular item is known to be particularly popular, it might be a rather jolly idea to order and load more of it ; in much the same way that my local supermarket tends to stock more turkeys as Christmas approaches.
It’s a radical thought, I know. But it could mean that customers seated in the second half of the CE cabin (and who have very likely paid the same / similar fare as those seated in the front) might actually get their meal choice, rather than be left disappointed.
May 20, 2018, 1:39 pm
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Just to complete this, the inbounds from MAD are shown on the ‘long’ menu - numbers at bottom. Inbound from PMI are I think 497 and 451 and can’t see those, so looks like that is staying Medium. BLQ is 541/545 (non breakfast menu) and again not listed so looks to have stayed as Medium.
May 20, 2018, 2:03 pm
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Just to complete this, the inbounds from MAD are shown on the ‘long’ menu - numbers at bottom. Inbound from PMI are I think 497 and 451 and can’t see those, so looks like that is staying Medium. BLQ is 541/545 (non breakfast menu) and again not listed so looks to have stayed as Medium.
May 20, 2018, 4:54 pm
#2352
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BLQ BA545 this evening was chicken salad or chicken panini. I ordered Asian veg special meal which was the hummous selection which also doubles up as the vegetarian, lacto and one other special meal which I forget right now.
May 20, 2018, 10:15 pm
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I imagine that with a different dessert it could also do gluten free
May 21, 2018, 4:07 pm
#2354
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Yes, I mentioned it on Friday in this topic: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...l#post29771447 - I think it a supply issue rather than a change.
The first bottle offered was Monopole, followed by Castelnau. After the Monopole, I found the Castelnau had a strange and slightly jarring aftertaste.
PS - offered three choices of main course this evening, BHD-LHR.
May 21, 2018, 6:04 pm
#2355
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Just to complete this, the inbounds from MAD are shown on the ‘long’ menu - numbers at bottom. Inbound from PMI are I think 497 and 451 and can’t see those, so looks like that is staying Medium. BLQ is 541/545 (non breakfast menu) and again not listed so looks to have stayed as Medium.