Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
-------------------------
Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Nov 9, 2017, 10:11 am
#1681
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Sounds like a fishy flight! Especially if salmon is the starter! Think I'll VLML outbound and leave as normal for the fish pie on the rtn.
Nov 9, 2017, 11:13 am
#1682
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Location: DFW or GOT or...
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On BA 811 (7:05a) CPH-LHR (medium) in CE 16Nov.
Having a hard time figuring out what I might get for breakfast. Any help would be appreciated
Having a hard time figuring out what I might get for breakfast. Any help would be appreciated
Nov 9, 2017, 11:17 am
#1683
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https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28360148-post1003.html
Now this is LGW, and there are slight differences to LHR, but that's essentially what you are getting. You may find other photos upthread too. The breakfast meal doesn't greatly vary except for the very short flights to MAN and LBA.
Nov 9, 2017, 11:18 am
#1684
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I hear CE food offerings is getting an overhaul at the start of 2018, may sound stupid , but is this true ?
Nov 9, 2017, 11:28 am
#1685
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Nov 9, 2017, 11:38 am
#1686
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Cape Town
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Thanks mate , was following the Capital Market Day thread from the start , but lost interest of following it after i read most the keynotes. However will have a look now to see what people think is gunna happen, indeed going to be very interesting !
Nov 10, 2017, 10:02 am
#1687
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Hey folks,
As promised upthread, you can see below the new long rotation A chicken tikka masala meal picture.
A couple of thoughts on the flight too, however.
Details: BA877 TLL-LHR, G-EUYI, flight time: 2h40, CE: 14/16, ET 139/144
Starter, cheese and desert
Main (chicken tikka masala), on the right there is cauliflower.
Starter vegan (ah, sushi again. Haven’t seen that in a while …)
Main vegan (pasta, not vegan actually)
As promised upthread, you can see below the new long rotation A chicken tikka masala meal picture.
A couple of thoughts on the flight too, however.
Details: BA877 TLL-LHR, G-EUYI, flight time: 2h40, CE: 14/16, ET 139/144
- 1 cabin crew working in CE
- Odd wording during the manual safety demonstration: “there are two exits in front of each cabin”. IMO this is technically wrong, as there is no exit in front of the ET cabin, that is at row 5. Manual demo was necessary due to a short taxi out. In fact, when I asked about it, the cabin crew told me that they quite often can’t show it as it is so long and that this is, quote “sad”.
- Coats not labelled (They have always been labelled on my flights, so not sure whether they are supposed to do it or not?)
- A couple of wheelie bags from ET had to be put in the CE overhead lockers due to a full flight and not enough space. I’d say that most people were travelling HBO. The check in/bag drop counters were empty when we checked in 90 minutes before the flight. Interesting times ahead when they will have densified the A320s and A321s…
- No menu cards were distributed
- The crew didn’t know what the offering was and had to constantly go back to the galley to check what was loaded.
- Service (starter) started about 35 minutes after departure (approx. over Visby)
- Main course served 65 minutes after departure (approx. over Janköping, Sweden)
- Tray cleared 80 minutes after departure
- My OH ordered a vegan meal, but the pasta is labelled vegetarian and is in fact the same we were given in June when we ordered vegetarian. My OH was sure these were pasta with eggs. There is clearly something wrong with BA’s special meal logistics and honestly it is ridiculous and tiring, not only for cabin crew but also for customers. I mean the desert and starter was vegan, so why not the main? British Airways very clearly doesn’t care as there have now been so many issues with special meals over the last couple of months.
- Chicken Tikka Masala was tasty, a bit spicy and quite filling.
- The trays are really too small now for this type of catering. The plate under the chicken tikka masala plate didn’t fit on the tray with the desert plate (round) still on it. This meant that I had to remove the desert and cheese to be able to fit the whole main course plate onto the tray. Otherwise it would have overlapped the edge of the tray and be uneven. Not very premium if you ask me…
Starter, cheese and desert
Main (chicken tikka masala), on the right there is cauliflower.
Starter vegan (ah, sushi again. Haven’t seen that in a while …)
Main vegan (pasta, not vegan actually)
Nov 10, 2017, 10:24 am
#1688
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Location: Edinburgh
Programs: BA Gold, HHonors Gold, Priority Pass
Posts: 759
That looks very nice, Im on the 1855 EDI-LHR tonight. I'll be sure to update what it is like in terms of food offering, service and drink options.
Nov 10, 2017, 11:03 am
#1689
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: BA Exec Club Gold, *G, EK Skywards Silver
Posts: 1,020
Do you get a hot meal on CityFlyer on Domestics at dinner time? (I know on Mainline, you don’t).
Nov 10, 2017, 11:06 am
#1690
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Nov 10, 2017, 11:34 am
#1691
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Posts: 4,993
Disregard - appears not.
Last edited by Schwann; Nov 10, 2017 at 12:01 pm
Nov 10, 2017, 12:00 pm
#1692
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Nov 10, 2017, 12:43 pm
#1693
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Location: DFW or GOT or...
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There is a wiki attached to this thread, and if you go down to Medium breakfast you will see some links, this is one of them:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28360148-post1003.html
Now this is LGW, and there are slight differences to LHR, but that's essentially what you are getting. You may find other photos upthread too. The breakfast meal doesn't greatly vary except for the very short flights to MAN and LBA.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28360148-post1003.html
Now this is LGW, and there are slight differences to LHR, but that's essentially what you are getting. You may find other photos upthread too. The breakfast meal doesn't greatly vary except for the very short flights to MAN and LBA.
Nov 10, 2017, 2:05 pm
#1694
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That being said, I agree towards the end of the year is more likely.
Nov 10, 2017, 5:26 pm
#1695
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: LHR, LGW
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,440
I believe Cruz mentioned Winter 2018 for CE changes...