Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Oct 24, 2017, 4:23 am
#1621
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I also asked about trimming the service if there’s a heavy load in CE. Yes, I was told we do if there’s a heavy load and a short flying time as there simply is not time to get everyone served. This makes sense. How they would get a Long Catering done with a heavy load to BCN for example, I cannot imagine.
Oct 24, 2017, 4:54 am
#1622
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 582
and on a positive note...
forgot to mention that on our flight FAO to LGW this month, we were given delicious Peter's Yard Sourdough Crispbread Original with the cheddar cheese. Nicely wrapped and crisp as promised on the packet. Soooooo much better than the unwrapped oat cakes we had previously!
Looked up Peter's Yard, they are British, so home made product!
forgot to mention that on our flight FAO to LGW this month, we were given delicious Peter's Yard Sourdough Crispbread Original with the cheddar cheese. Nicely wrapped and crisp as promised on the packet. Soooooo much better than the unwrapped oat cakes we had previously!
Looked up Peter's Yard, they are British, so home made product!
Oct 24, 2017, 6:43 am
#1623
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I'm 100% with c-w-s on that one. I just think that the hot item from the long band (even without choice) with cheese and dessert would be a vast improvement and I genuinely do not see why it would be any harder to deliver than the breakfast already served on medium band flights which already follows the exact same pattern.
Oct 24, 2017, 9:06 am
#1624
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I'm 100% with c-w-s on that one. I just think that the hot item from the long band (even without choice) with cheese and dessert would be a vast improvement and I genuinely do not see why it would be any harder to deliver than the breakfast already served on medium band flights which already follows the exact same pattern.
Oct 24, 2017, 11:50 am
#1625
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Oct 24, 2017, 12:02 pm
#1626
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This was the child’s meal on a short domestic NCL/LHR departing at 11:40. A bit of chicken slices and some cheese. The cheese had gone a little hard and the desert was the same as fit the standard meal.
Oct 24, 2017, 12:06 pm
#1627
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1) Exactly as suggested with the meal for Band 2
2) I'd ditch Afternoon Tea from 36,000ft - it causes nothing but complaints.
3) Get some trays big enough to put everything on
4) Make sure that there is a tray for everyone ( I should not have to specify that).
NCE is one of those places which is a challenge to get everything done in time particularly if the cabin is large (so I might add is FRA) - still as it is you - how could I refuse (and it is a big money destination.)
Oct 24, 2017, 12:36 pm
#1628
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Darling - if BA catering were down to me - I'd do the following
1) Exactly as suggested with the meal for Band 2
2) I'd ditch Afternoon Tea from 36,000ft - it causes nothing but complaints.
3) Get some trays big enough to put everything on
4) Make sure that there is a tray for everyone ( I should not have to specify that).
NCE is one of those places which is a challenge to get everything done in time particularly if the cabin is large (so I might add is FRA) - still as it is you - how could I refuse (and it is a big money destination.)
1) Exactly as suggested with the meal for Band 2
2) I'd ditch Afternoon Tea from 36,000ft - it causes nothing but complaints.
3) Get some trays big enough to put everything on
4) Make sure that there is a tray for everyone ( I should not have to specify that).
NCE is one of those places which is a challenge to get everything done in time particularly if the cabin is large (so I might add is FRA) - still as it is you - how could I refuse (and it is a big money destination.)
And thanks for giving me special treatment - I'm blushing! ^ 
Oct 24, 2017, 1:37 pm
#1629
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Programs: BA; IHG; LHW; Hilton
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That sounds like another poor evolution.
Oct 24, 2017, 3:32 pm
#1630
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Programs: BA Gold, Mucci
Posts: 2,068
The trays, absolutely agree. Having to play Club Europe tray items Tetris every time I fly BA is boring.
Oct 25, 2017, 2:58 am
#1631
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Sussex
Programs: BA; IHG; LHW; Hilton
Posts: 788
Trays
Disagree with the afternoon tea. I loved it when it had scones, jam and cream and used to pick the afternoon tea flight between LHR and DUB specifically to get it. Clearly they should bring it back solely due to my views
The trays, absolutely agree. Having to play Club Europe tray items Tetris every time I fly BA is boring.
The trays, absolutely agree. Having to play Club Europe tray items Tetris every time I fly BA is boring.
Oct 25, 2017, 4:00 am
#1633
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They can't afford me Darling. I know all about blushing. Him Indoors calls it Hot Flushing and wonder why my hairbrush and his skull collide. Nearly broke the hairbrush!
Oct 25, 2017, 11:08 am
#1634
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On the noon flight back today choice of Tomato/Mozzarella (will we ever see the back of this?) or Coronation Chicken salad. How odd to have a plate featuring garnish, Chicken bound in curry mayonnaise flanked by the usual 4 slices of unflavoured chicken. The Coronation chicken lacked the apricots and almonds etc but what is the point of then having more chicken on the side? Would it not make sense to have a side of, say rice salad or lentils?
Oct 26, 2017, 7:56 am
#1635
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