Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
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Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Mar 25, 2017, 8:03 am
#121
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Haha... So the hot meal is a cheese toastie? Have I understood that correctly. How amusing. So much excitement over nothing in fact the real insiders are actually saying its a downgrade from current short and medium offering. Fascinating. I think working class rights-warrior Ms Miller should spin for BA.
Let's hazard a guess that the toastie is actually smaller than the bacon (or "seasonal") hot sarnie for sale down the back.
Let's hazard a guess that the toastie is actually smaller than the bacon (or "seasonal") hot sarnie for sale down the back.
Mar 25, 2017, 8:03 am
#122
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It sounds like a major downgrade and what we would expect from 'eat in the lounge' Mr Cruz...
Mar 25, 2017, 8:04 am
#123
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Mar 25, 2017, 8:05 am
#124
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@hugolover : what a cynic you are.
Have you already forgotten about the shiny new crockery ??
How very dare you
Have you already forgotten about the shiny new crockery ??
How very dare you
Mar 25, 2017, 8:08 am
#125
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Am I gonna get offered afternoon tea (no scones) OR ploughman's on the inaugural 15:50 to Murcia on Tuesday then?
Mar 25, 2017, 8:08 am
#126
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The scones are the only, and I really do mean the only, good thing about the afternoon tea service. I have typically ordered the low fat special meal and then had a scone anyway if I've ever ended up on an afternoon tea service with enough notice. Most of the crew seem to 'get it' also when I ask for a scone and realise I'm only having the low fat meal to avoid the dry sandwiches/cakes!
Oh well. Nice to know I'm not alone in my scones loving! We're only a day away from it all happening so it will be interesting to see the new meals. Cross fingers they're amazing!
Mar 25, 2017, 8:11 am
#127
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I also liked the scones, and along with Genius1 I used to "put the other side of the story" when all the other FTers would rail on about that much reviled aspect of CE catering. So I'm completely bemused now. Where were you all?
Mar 25, 2017, 8:11 am
#128
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I'm truly fascinated to know what a "ploughman's salad" might be. Especially as I don't currently know any ploughmen of whom I can enquire.
Mar 25, 2017, 8:25 am
#129
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Sorry to sound thick but what will I be offered? Im VLML normally (and will be on evening flight back as can't rely on there ever being a fish offering for dinner being a p/t pescatarian) .I may have to update that... Outbound I went for normal meal as 2 out of 3 afternoon tea sarnies are usually veggie/fish and I hate the little salad offered to VLML as a replacement.. They used to ALWAYS forget to put strawberry jam and cream on a VLML tray..
Mar 25, 2017, 8:26 am
#130
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Mar 25, 2017, 8:36 am
#131
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Incidentally, there were 32 of us in CE on the way out from LGW and I was in 8F and despite the earliness of the hour there was a call for champagne and I could also see who was getting what. After 6 bottles were served (including me) and 2 top up bottles in the second pass (I was going to ask for a second) the lady in 8D was told it had all gone and was given a white wine instead. Though I suspect this was just to protect supplies the return flight at lunchtime.
I wonder if the small bottles will continue or if a full bottle will be provided? A full bottle is harder to hide away and might increase take-up of course!
Mar 25, 2017, 8:40 am
#132
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Thanks Dickbits ^
Unless some other developments of note have somehow passed me by, I seem to think this CE catering revamp is being touted in some quarters as the first genuine in-the-air BA enhancement for a good while.
Much has been written in advance, so it will be very interesting to see how it is all received once in operation ; and just how much of an upgrade it turns out to be. This is a 'premium' cabin we're talking about when all said & done - sometimes with eye-watering fare levels on certain routes & days/times.
Haven't seen every single post on the thread so apologies if already mentioned, but Head for Points carries a very good article on the impending changes. The piece itself is 95% factual (ie based on official info sourced from BA), with only very limited editorial comment. The many reader comments below it are, however, less than enthusiastic.
Unless some other developments of note have somehow passed me by, I seem to think this CE catering revamp is being touted in some quarters as the first genuine in-the-air BA enhancement for a good while.
Much has been written in advance, so it will be very interesting to see how it is all received once in operation ; and just how much of an upgrade it turns out to be. This is a 'premium' cabin we're talking about when all said & done - sometimes with eye-watering fare levels on certain routes & days/times.
Haven't seen every single post on the thread so apologies if already mentioned, but Head for Points carries a very good article on the impending changes. The piece itself is 95% factual (ie based on official info sourced from BA), with only very limited editorial comment. The many reader comments below it are, however, less than enthusiastic.
Mar 25, 2017, 8:52 am
#133
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Will Short/Medium lunch/dinner flights get dessert of any description?
Will the non-LBA/MAN/JER routes at breakfast time still get fresh fruit and warm bread/pastries?
Will the non-LBA/MAN/JER routes at breakfast time still get fresh fruit and warm bread/pastries?
Mar 25, 2017, 8:54 am
#134
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I also liked the scones, and along with Genius1 I used to "put the other side of the story" when all the other FTers would rail on about that much reviled aspect of CE catering. So I'm completely bemused now. Where were you all?
Around six months after I moved to my current market county town (a number of years back), our one & only remaining (and very experienced) fishmonger shut up shop for good, due to lack of sufficient custom. I lost count of the number of the people I came across in the subsequent years who bemoaned its passing whilst they stressed how often they used to patronise it (folk of course who never bought their fish from the ever-so-slightly cheaper supermarkets (with less knowledgeable staff) of course ....).
Mar 25, 2017, 9:05 am
#135
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That said, DL and AC are flying nonstop to the West, to the East, QR is reopening its year round NCE in early July with a 787, and EK are switching their flight to A388 also in early July and also year round, and offer free chauffeur pick up and drop off in J and free helicopter transfer to Monaco in F. I wouldn't be surprised if that 'salad or sandwich, madam?' C offer made a few people feel like exploring the competition a bit more.