Apr 16, 2017, 1:12 pm
Last edit by: corporate-wage-slave
Club Europe Catering Guide 2017.
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
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Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
This thread outlines the new arrangements for Club Europe catering, introduced on Sunday 26 March 2017 and due to end on Tuesday 11 September 2018, based on 3 zones. A new Club Europe catering product is due to be launch on Wednesday 12 September 2018, and this is based on 4 bands. The main information piece - in terms of timings and the distance zones for the meals can be found in post 1. The following cross references the photos below against the matrix of options. In addition to the photos, some FTers have written extensively on their experiences so there is more to this thread than the pictures. Also note that there was an increase in food offered on some combinations shortly after the start-up, so the more recent photos may be the best place to start.The previous shorthaul catering guide, now locked but which had the previous 4 band system, is to be found here.
Numbers relate to the post number. Vegetarian means the alternative option provided as standard rather than the pre-ordered versions - which are VLML (Lacto-ovo), AVML (Asia) and VGML (Vegan) . There are differences between the offering in/out of LHR, LGW, LCY+STN. Last update: 833
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Note posts before 1-832 are typically the April 2017 menu. 833 and above is from the menu for May 2017.
----
Chef's Chat sheets for:
CE LHR Summer 2017 - Rotation A
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28338151-post954.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28339641-post958.html
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Short Band (UK, France, Ireland, BeNeLux, Germany)
Breakfast: 279, 570 (vegetarian), 629, 674, 821 (Express breakfast for MAN and LBA), 1343 (Vegan), 2285 (Express for LBA and MAN), 2445
Brunch: 180, 289, 469, 563, 685, 716, 2625 (AVML)
Lunch: 207, 545 (diabetic), 644 (first photo), 680 (VLML), 802, 928, 1322 (Kosher), 2284
Afternoon tea: 339, 404 (vegetarian), 480, 600 (VLML), 710 (including low lactose), 800, 882 (gluten free), 1281, 1322 (Kosher), 1673, 2679 (Kosher), 2792
Dinner: 563, 630 (VGML), 669 (Kosher Passover), 771 (VGML LCY) 799, 819 (AVML), 833 (May 2017 menu), 1283, 1287, 1674, 2446, 2616 (Kosher), 2793
Comments on difference between AVML and VLML here.
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Medium Band (e.g. Madrid, Nice, Prague, Copenhagen)
Breakfast: 645 (vegetarian), 724 (vegetarian), 1003
Brunch: 199 (VLML), 600 (VLML), 659 (Kosher Passover)
Lunch: 239 (child), 251, 425, 641, 733
Afternoon tea: 332 (also includes vegetarian), 426 (GFML), 813 (Muslim)
Dinner: 456, 551 (also includes VLML), 666, 1004,
1278
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Long Band (e.g. Lisbon, Rome, Warsaw, Stockholm).
Breakfast: 195 (vegetarian)
Rest of the day: 306 (LFML), 345, 427, 443, 468, 597, 676, 687, 695, 783 (VLML)
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NOT MAINTAINED AND OUT OF DATE: The complete Short Haul meal structure for the longer flights as of October 2017 is:
LHR
Meal 1: Chicken / red pepper risotto
Meal 2: Beef cheek
Meal 3: Chicken supreme / gnocchi
Meal 4: Miso glazed cod
Meal 5: Chicken khao soi
Meal 6: Hot smoked salmon linguine
LGW
Meal 1: Thyme roasted chicken
Meal 2: Spicy corn and paneer masala
Meal 3: Thai Penang chicken curry
Meal 4: Roasted red pepper tortellini
Meal 5: Beef and mushroom caserole
Meal 6: Tomato and four cheeses tortellini
Structured into:
Rotation A
LHR outbound
Meal 3
Meal 4
inbound to LHR
Meal 5
Meal 6
Rotation B
LHR outbound
Meal 5
Meal 6
inbound to LHR
Meal 1
Meal 2
Rotation C
LHR outbound
Meal 1
Meal 2
inbound to LHR
Meal 3
Meal 4
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October 2017 = Rotation C
November 2017 = Rotation A
December 2017 = Rotation B
January 2018 = Rotation C
etc
Club Europe catering guide
Mar 25, 2017, 12:17 pm
#151
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Wedged somewhere between BTS and VIE ✈
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Posts: 6,338
Do you seriously think that BA are going to be spending more on this 'hot sandwich' than the current hot meals? I think we can be fairly sure that BA will be saving the pennies once again. I imagine that they'll even be saving on the champagne, as smaller bottles work out more expensive anyway. But if you're hoping for an improvement, then good luck!
Mar 25, 2017, 12:35 pm
#152
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,593
I hope the new crockery will address the one mouthful mug on the CE tray. Pouring a "hot" beverage into a mug with a large surface area and shallow depth is a sure way of ensuring the BA super-brew is always served lukewarm.
Mar 25, 2017, 12:37 pm
#153
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Wedged somewhere between BTS and VIE ✈
Programs: Star Alliance Gold (A3 Gold), Oneworld Emerald (BA Gold), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,338
As critical as I was about BoB I really thought BA had a strategy, that they wanted to accentuate the difference between Euro Traveller and Club Europe. But now it seems obvious that they don't have a clue. I can buy a hot roll in economy and it's possible that the 'CE sarnie' won't be much better.
Anyway, I'll pop back in a week to read the complaints!
Anyway, I'll pop back in a week to read the complaints!
Mar 25, 2017, 12:38 pm
#154
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Programs: BA Gold, Mucci
Posts: 2,068
Tomorrow, tomorrow, we'll find out, tomorrow...
It's amazing that I hold high hopes. My generally optimistic beliefs rearing their head once again. It can't be less than what it is anyway!
Mar 25, 2017, 12:48 pm
#155
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Skywards (enhanced Blue !), Oman Air Sindbad Gold
Posts: 6,399
I'm wondering whether you had a hand in the press release (which I recently received by email along with many other BAEC members) about the new First Wing at T5 ....?
If not, then I'd say a role awaits within the mighty BA spin machine ^
Mar 25, 2017, 12:55 pm
#156
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: Mucci de la Cuisine Aérienne du Réseau Courte Durée de British Airways
Posts: 4,704
For Heathrow Do&Co have been the supplier for 2 years now, though DHL handle the logistics. You can tell if you look under the puddings, there is often a Do&Co label there. LGW have a different supplier. The rise in "this CE meal was surprisingly tasty" comments here on FT struck me as starting when Do&Co took over the contract.
They recently started to provide the New York catering and they provide the gourmet meals that you can oay extra for in WT. They also provided some midhaul catering but I am not sure if they still do.
Mar 25, 2017, 1:51 pm
#157
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Programs: AF/KL Life Plat, BA GGL+GfL, ALL Plat, Hilton Diam, Marriott Gold, blablablah, etc
Posts: 30,546
Quite simply if that's true and medium retains the full lunch/dinner, that will take care of my objection and will mean there are only winners or unaffected pax which would make it an overall improvement. However I was basing my thoughts on Petrus's and Littlegirl's summary which suggested otherwise and are usually very well informed.
Mar 25, 2017, 3:46 pm
#158
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
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Quite simply if that's true and medium retains the full lunch/dinner, that will take care of my objection and will mean there are only winners or unaffected pax which would make it an overall improvement. However I was basing my thoughts on Petrus's and Littlegirl's summary which suggested otherwise and are usually very well informed.
The BA press office has also not been rushing to correct the details I published on Head for Points this morning, which they normally do when there is a mistake (and which I am always happy to correct).
Mar 25, 2017, 4:28 pm
#159
Join Date: May 2009
Location: London
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 2,741
Most importantly, I wonder how many full size bottles of champagne will be loaded per flight, and how quickly it will run out on busy flights...
Mar 25, 2017, 4:35 pm
#160
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: HKG,LON
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 31
Have a flight from MAD in CE this coming Tuesday evening, few weeks ago on a similarly timed flight from MRS(arguably shorter) there was a hot meal(not a hot sandwich and it was surprisingly decent) If I read this correctly, am I only going to have a choice of a salad and a hot sandwich? Quite ridiculous and if that is the case I hope the IB lounge in MAD is well stock with hot options. Oh and btw on the outbound on IB, there was a hot meal.
Mar 25, 2017, 5:58 pm
#161
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Edinburgh UK
Programs: BA Silver, HHonours Gold, Mucci of Pucci, Oyster Card, Nectar Card, Father's Day Card
Posts: 9,372
Whe they serve you your diddy glass from a big bottle you'll have to wait for them to come back with a refill.
So you may actually get less this way.
Mar 25, 2017, 10:05 pm
#162
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: San Diego, CA
Programs: SPG-Gold
Posts: 371
service and product with my travels before on DL and AS.
Flying the 767 BA552 to FCO so I will get to test out the breakfast and the dinner on the return.
Looking forward to July.
Mar 25, 2017, 11:42 pm
#163
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: BAEC Bronze
Posts: 388
Delivering a blow by blow account of the new CE menu, I'm currently in the Gatwick lounge, drinking a coffee, and will be heading to the gate in about 30 mins 
Mar 26, 2017, 1:45 am
#164
Join Date: Sep 2013
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Posts: 6,399
All credit to Professor Cruz (Head of Enhancements). Where his specialist field is concerned, he's generally one step ahead of anyone else
Mar 26, 2017, 1:57 am
#165
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,041
...and there was always the risk that someone would ask for a mini-bottle and take it with them