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Old Dec 13, 2016, 11:12 pm
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Routes to/from LGW*/LCY/STN are NOT affected. Only flights to/from LHR* are potentially affected. If you think you may be affected, post 2714 (click here) may be helpful.

*The LGW-JFK flight has seen a lot of cancellations for the current strike period.

Current strike period:
  • None

Next announced strike period:

    Previous strike periods:
    • 25th December 2016 from 00:01 for 48 hours. (Strike action was suspended following ACAS discussions and revised offer.)
    • 10th & 11th January 2017
    • 19th January 2017 for 72 hours until 21st January
    • 5th-7th & 9th-11th February 2017
    • 17th-20th February 2017
    • 22nd-25th February 2017
    • 3rd-9th March 2017
    • 16th-19th June 2017 (suspended pending further ACAS talks)
    • 1st-16th July 2017
    • 19th July-1st August 2017
    • 2nd-15th August 2017
    • 16th-30th August 2017

    Routes affected:
    As a possible indication, for the fifth strike period BA announced the following cancellations:
    http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27910044-post2131.html as well as flights to and from Doha on all affected days (17 - 20 February).

    Mixed fleet routes are listed here, though note that other (non Mixed Fleet) flights from Heathrow are also being cancelled.

    Note for context in terms of how many routes might actually be affected: there are about 4000 members of MF (of which ~2,700 are Unite members and therefore eligible to take industrial action) and 15,000 total cabin crew

    Background Details from BA:
    Strike 19th July-1st August
    2nd August-16th August

    Background Details from Unite:
    http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...ty-pay-levels/
    http://www.unitetheunion.org/news/br...refuses-talks/

    Latest negotiating position:
    Talks at ACAS in June appear to have failed, with a further two week strike commencing 1st July announced on 16th June.

    Key upcoming dates:
    • Latest negotiated position (@ 23rd Oct 2017) between BA & Unite to be balloted. Rumoured that the union is recommending acceptance.

    Ballot results for industrial action:
    • First ballot, November 2016: Yes 79.5%, No 20.5%
    • Second ballot, December 2016: Yes 70%, No 30%
    • Third ballot, March 2017: Yes 56%, No 44%, turnout 72%
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 8:58 am
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    They still say later today:

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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 9:33 am
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    Update on http://www.britishairways.com/travel...e?p_faqid=5660
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 9:40 am
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    So some SH LHR flights are affected - can anyone find a list?
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 9:43 am
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    My flight seems to still be showing as okay, but maybe I just haven't been contacted yet?
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 9:45 am
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    They probably don't want the media to have access to the list...
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 9:47 am
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    The two STR-LHR flights are still able to book (there was just one last time), so I think they haven't updated anything yet
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 9:58 am
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    Last updated: 16:30, 16 January 2017

    All British Airways customers will be able to fly to their destinations on Thursday 19, Friday 20 and Saturday 21 January despite proposed industrial action by Unite.

    British Airways has further strengthened its schedules from the previous two days of strike action, and can confirm the following details:

    All flights to and from London Gatwick will operate as normal
    All flights to and from London City will operate as normal
    All long haul flights to and from London Heathrow will operate as normal
    As part of our contingency plan, we will be merging a very small number of short haul flights to and from London Heathrow. This will result in the cancellation of only one per cent of our total scheduled flights across the three days.

    This will mean some customers will travel slightly earlier or later in the day than their original booking. Customers affected are being contacted with the options available for them.

    If you are flying on any of the three days of threatened industrial action and want to check your travel plans please continue to use Manage My Booking.


    There may be some inaccurate information about our schedule on some general aviation and airport websites. Please ignore these sites.

    The accurate information about your travel plans will be contained within your personal booking page on Manage My Booking.

    Thank you for your support and understanding.
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 10:04 am
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    Originally Posted by schnapperin
    The two STR-LHR flights are still able to book (there was just one last time), so I think they haven't updated anything yet
    There's a midday-ish DUS showing cancelled on Thursday at the mo.
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 10:06 am
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    Originally Posted by schnapperin
    The two STR-LHR flights are still able to book (there was just one last time), so I think they haven't updated anything yet
    BA0917 on 20th got just cancelled - looks like they are updating the system at the moment.
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 10:35 am
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    Looks like 6 flights each day so far.

    Last edited by Jumbodriver; Jan 16, 2017 at 10:42 am
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 10:40 am
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    Originally Posted by Jumbodriver
    Looks like 6 flights on 20th to me. 1 ABZ 1 DUS 1 STR 1 BSL and 2 MAN.
    Consolidating half empty flights... must be the first strike that actually saves BA money!
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 10:42 am
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    Originally Posted by Jumbodriver
    Looks like 6 flights on 20th but more on 19th assuming its all been updated on internal systems.
    Do you know which ones on the 19th?
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 11:01 am
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    On expertflyer I have been through all MF short haul & domestic routes (as noted in the wiki here).

    The following are showing as cancelled, although they are being loaded over the last hour so perhaps one or two more to come. I will have another check in a few hours.

    List checked & updated 2225 16 January

    Thursday 19 January
    Aberdeen
    LHR-ABZ BA1304 0700d
    ABZ-LHR BA1305 0920d

    Bologna
    LHR-BLQ BA540 0835d
    BLQ-LHR BA541 1235d

    Düsseldorf
    LHR-DUS BA944 1600d
    DUS-LHR BA945 1915d

    Hamburg
    LHR-HAM BA964 0705d
    HAM-LHR BA965 1030d

    Hanover
    LHR-HAJ BA976 0750d
    HAJ-LHR BA977 1120d

    Oslo
    LHR-OSL BA762 0730d
    OSL-LHR BA763 1130d

    Friday 20 January
    Aberdeen
    LHR-ABZ BA1304 0700d
    ABZ-LHR BA1305 0920d

    Basel
    LHR-BSL BA750 1400d
    BSL-LHR BA749 1715d

    Düsseldorf
    LHR-DUS BA936 0715d
    DUS-LHR BA937 1030d

    Manchester
    LHR-MAN BA1394 1315d, BA1402 1825d
    MAN-LHR BA1399 1455d, BA1409 2010d

    Stuttgart
    LHR-STR BA918 0730d
    STR-LHR BA917 1045d

    Saturday 21 January
    None showing yet.

    Last edited by KARFA; Jan 16, 2017 at 3:30 pm
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 11:08 am
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    Thanks KARFA. I keep my fingers crossed for my BA753 BSL-LHR (1110-1205) and LHR-BSL BA756 (1910-2145) on Saturday. If BA753 is cancelled, I'll cancel the trip altogether and hope for a full refund.

    Last edited by florens; Jan 16, 2017 at 11:14 am
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    Old Jan 16, 2017, 11:50 am
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    I'm ok going out on 18th LHR-DUS.
    DUS-LHR BA941 return 16:15 on 20th could be affected, but maybe its the flight they consolidate to. I can't leave earlier, but don't mind if it's changed to a later flight.
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