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Old Feb 8, 19, 2:46 am
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Originally Posted by Akoz View Post
Do I have my history correct in saying that part of the origins of TCX was as a BA Charter subsidiary?
Yes, I think so. As Wikipedia puts it:-
British Airtours [a wholly owned subsidiary of then state-owned British Airways] adopted the Caledonian Airways name when the newly privatised British Airways completed the acquisition of the rival British Caledonian (BCal) in April 1988. Caledonian Airways was eventually sold to UK tour operator Inspirations in 1995, marking BA's exit from the mainstream inclusive tour (IT) market. In 1999, Thomas Cook acquired Inspirations and merged Caledonian Airways with Flying Colours to form JMC Air Services, a forerunner of the UK arm of the present day Thomas Cook Airlines.
Some will also recognise Flying Colours as the airline with which BA worked to operate low-yield Caribbean routes from LGW via a company called AML. This venture is perhaps most talked about here as the original BA operator of 10-abreast 777s, although that experiment was disbanded and those aircraft converted to 9-abreast. Only now, with the general industry direction being 10-abreast, is BA moving back to that configuration.
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Old Feb 8, 19, 2:51 am
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Rebranded as Level?
Maybe some of it as well as other IAG brands. Not sure Condor would fit into BA.
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Old Feb 8, 19, 3:01 am
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Do I have my history correct in saying that part of the origins of TCX was as a BA Charter subsidiary?
I remember flying on a chartered British Airtours Boeing 737 flight from Manchester to Los Angeles in 1983 . That was a loooooong flight. Had to stop in Bangor to refuel if i recall.
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Old Feb 8, 19, 3:13 am
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Possibly a B707?
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Old Feb 8, 19, 3:35 am
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Possibly a B707?
No CIHY, definitely one of these. When our American cousins seen it they said "Gee, you flew across the Atlantic on THAT!!"


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Old Feb 8, 19, 3:50 am
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That aircraft is still flying Air Tanzania

https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b737-22030.htm
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Old Feb 8, 19, 6:22 am
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Originally Posted by happeemonkee View Post
No CIHY, definitely one of these. When our American cousins seen it they said "Gee, you flew across the Atlantic on THAT!!"
Looking at Wiki, the range of a B737-200 is 3044 miles. The distance from MAN to Bangor is 2951 miles. So, just about possible.
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Old Feb 8, 19, 6:37 am
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Looking at Wiki, the range of a B737-200 is 3044 miles. The distance from MAN to Bangor is 2951 miles. So, just about possible.
Just checked with my cousin who was with me (my memory has faded a bit) and he said we stopped in Newark, not Bangor. Even more confused now because of the range???
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Old Feb 8, 19, 6:50 am
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Originally Posted by DYKWIA View Post
Looking at Wiki, the range of a B737-200 is 3044 miles. The distance from MAN to Bangor is 2951 miles. So, just about possible.
Not with the standard north atlantic headwinds and legal reserves.
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Old Feb 8, 19, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by happeemonkee View Post
Just checked with my cousin who was with me (my memory has faded a bit) and he said we stopped in Newark, not Bangor. Even more confused now because of the range???
Might just about get you to Newark, Notts

Maybe another stop in Iceland or somewhere?
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Old Feb 8, 19, 6:57 am
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Or without ETOPS authority - which the KT 737 did not have. I had to be either a 707 or 757 and I think 1983 was too early for the -e4 ETOPS 757s.
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Old Feb 8, 19, 7:37 am
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Originally Posted by happeemonkee View Post
No CIHY, definitely one of these. When our American cousins seen it they said "Gee, you flew across the Atlantic on THAT!!"
Yeah, I would have opened my eyes wide too. Looks a bit like my Fisher Price plane I had when I was a kid...
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Old Feb 8, 19, 7:46 am
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It would have been a Tristar or B707 but Newark seems doubtful.
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Old Feb 16, 19, 9:45 am
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Not good news for BMI if the below is true:

https://aviationanalyst.co.uk/2019/0...t-to-collapse/
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Old Feb 16, 19, 9:56 am
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Not good news for BMI if the below is true:

https://aviationanalyst.co.uk/2019/0...t-to-collapse/
As a London-based flyer I'd almost forgotten it still exists, but yes, it doesn't look good.
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