WW "airlines to go bust"
Sep 22, 2019, 5:00 pm
#496
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BA would need crew as well; BA haven't got enough crew as it is, and wet-leasing to sit on the slots in the mean time is going to be nigh-on impossible until the 737 MAX farrago is sorted out. All wet lessors are beyond fully booked at present.
But then BA never saw a slot they didn't like and if BA doesn't buy them a competitor will - so BA might well feel they have to buy the slots and sort out aircraft, crews, and routes to operate later.
This would all be a lot easier for BA to arrange if they weren't royally pissing off their flight crews at the moment, but that's a different thread
But then BA never saw a slot they didn't like and if BA doesn't buy them a competitor will - so BA might well feel they have to buy the slots and sort out aircraft, crews, and routes to operate later.
This would all be a lot easier for BA to arrange if they weren't royally pissing off their flight crews at the moment, but that's a different thread
Sep 22, 2019, 5:41 pm
#497
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BA would need crew as well; BA haven't got enough crew as it is, and wet-leasing to sit on the slots in the mean time is going to be nigh-on impossible until the 737 MAX farrago is sorted out. All wet lessors are beyond fully booked at present.
But then BA never saw a slot they didn't like and if BA doesn't buy them a competitor will - so BA might well feel they have to buy the slots and sort out aircraft, crews, and routes to operate later.
This would all be a lot easier for BA to arrange if they weren't royally pissing off their flight crews at the moment, but that's a different thread
But then BA never saw a slot they didn't like and if BA doesn't buy them a competitor will - so BA might well feel they have to buy the slots and sort out aircraft, crews, and routes to operate later.
This would all be a lot easier for BA to arrange if they weren't royally pissing off their flight crews at the moment, but that's a different thread
Sep 22, 2019, 6:19 pm
#498
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Sep 22, 2019, 6:45 pm
#499
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BA would need crew as well; BA haven't got enough crew as it is, and wet-leasing to sit on the slots in the mean time is going to be nigh-on impossible until the 737 MAX farrago is sorted out. All wet lessors are beyond fully booked at present.
But then BA never saw a slot they didn't like and if BA doesn't buy them a competitor will - so BA might well feel they have to buy the slots and sort out aircraft, crews, and routes to operate later.
But then BA never saw a slot they didn't like and if BA doesn't buy them a competitor will - so BA might well feel they have to buy the slots and sort out aircraft, crews, and routes to operate later.
Sep 22, 2019, 9:48 pm
#501
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Sep 23, 2019, 12:57 am
#502
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The wet leases to cover the Monarch slots at Gatwick do seem to have finished now, mostly because BA have managed to keep on short haul aircraft that would otherwise have been retired in favour of new Neo being delivered by Airbus.
BA may well seek to repeat this trick again if they manage to get hold of more Gatwick slots.
Sep 23, 2019, 6:06 am
#508
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There's a specific post about this now, but in short they lost their licence to operate and their insurance as soon as they went into administration.
Sep 23, 2019, 6:13 am
#509
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Excuse the levity at this sad time for so many, but ...
Subtitles on a piece on BBC News have just translated “Low Cost Carrier” as “Low Caste Curry”.
Subtitles on a piece on BBC News have just translated “Low Cost Carrier” as “Low Caste Curry”.
Sep 23, 2019, 4:00 pm
#510
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Resurrecting the thread for yet another potential 'about to fold': Adria Airways ('national' carrier of Slovenia, they operate a number of flights on behalf of Lufthansa and other airlines as well) has been struggling for quite some time now but, during a press conference in Ljubljana this morning, their executives basically said that they would desperately need a "strategic partner" (translated into English: "We ran out of cash"...) in order to "maintain scheduled operations". What is most worrying is that they have been cancelling a signifcant number of flights recently and also 'merging' services, not to mention the chronic delays. By all means, not looking pretty here.
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Originally Posted by AdriaHQ
23. September 2019
Adria Airways announces that, as from 23:30 (LT) on September 23, 2019, it will temporarily (on Tuesday, 24 September and Wednesday, 25 September) cease all its flight operations from and to all its bases (Ljubljana, Pristina, Tirana).
Adria Airways advises its passengers to check who their carrier is before they arrive at the airport and if it is Adria Airways then they should contact sales offices where tickets were purchased.
Decision to temporarily cease flight operations is a consequence of currently unsecured access to fresh cash which airline needs for further flight operations. Company is at this point intensively searching solutions in cooperation with potential investor. Goal of everyone involved is to make Adria Airways fly again and that ceasing of operations is indeed temporarily.
The company deeply regrets the situation and apologizes to all its passengers and partners.
Adria Airways suggests to its passengers and partners to follow the on-line announcements at www.adria.si.
Adria Airways announces that, as from 23:30 (LT) on September 23, 2019, it will temporarily (on Tuesday, 24 September and Wednesday, 25 September) cease all its flight operations from and to all its bases (Ljubljana, Pristina, Tirana).
Adria Airways advises its passengers to check who their carrier is before they arrive at the airport and if it is Adria Airways then they should contact sales offices where tickets were purchased.
Decision to temporarily cease flight operations is a consequence of currently unsecured access to fresh cash which airline needs for further flight operations. Company is at this point intensively searching solutions in cooperation with potential investor. Goal of everyone involved is to make Adria Airways fly again and that ceasing of operations is indeed temporarily.
The company deeply regrets the situation and apologizes to all its passengers and partners.
Adria Airways suggests to its passengers and partners to follow the on-line announcements at www.adria.si.
Kind of a shame BA couldn't continue operating into LJU for another few weeks. It might have been the perfect opportunity to increase frequencies and available seats as JP can no longer get people to FRA/MUC/ZRH for LH connections, while people still need to go places. And there's definitely some free LGW if not LHR slots after last night.