Mar 4, 2016, 2:49 pm
Bombardier CRJ-700 / CR7 New Configuration with First Class & Rollout (consolidated)
Feb 17, 2016, 3:52 am
#541
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The way EQMs are calculated changed this year from the way EQPs were worked out last year. Before the minimum was calculated first, then the class of service multiplier went on top of that. Now, the class of service multiplier is applied, and if that doesn't bring the flight up to the minimum then the minimum is applied. Thus, any flight less than 250 miles in any fare other than full F or J will earn 500 EQM. Any flight longer than that booked into a discounted first or business fare will earn actual mileage * 2.
Taken together, the new system incentivises people to buy the cheapest tickets for short flights: upgrades are now free for all elites, and EQM earning is not enhanced when more expensive fares are purchased. It's totally moronic to me, but then again I'm a really crappy airline CEO so don't listen to me...
Taken together, the new system incentivises people to buy the cheapest tickets for short flights: upgrades are now free for all elites, and EQM earning is not enhanced when more expensive fares are purchased. It's totally moronic to me, but then again I'm a really crappy airline CEO so don't listen to me...
Feb 17, 2016, 8:04 am
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The EQM:
OP can request ORC / original routing credit due to involuntary rerouting. It shouldn't be much of a problem.
On the EQM, as clearly mentioned in
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...es-2016-a.html, the 500 EQM minima have been miscalculated by AA. They are aware of this and are working up a fix, as well as a retroactive EQM credit adjustment.
Compensation:
As to AA reimbursing hotel costs, there's as much chance of that as there is of a snowstorm at Death Valley in July.
Trip in vain:
I think the agent may have been making it up.
OP can request ORC / original routing credit due to involuntary rerouting. It shouldn't be much of a problem.
On the EQM, as clearly mentioned in
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...es-2016-a.html, the 500 EQM minima have been miscalculated by AA. They are aware of this and are working up a fix, as well as a retroactive EQM credit adjustment.
Compensation:
As to AA reimbursing hotel costs, there's as much chance of that as there is of a snowstorm at Death Valley in July.
Trip in vain:
I think the agent may have been making it up.
Feb 17, 2016, 9:00 am
#544
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The EQM:
OP can request ORC / original routing credit due to involuntary rerouting. It shouldn't be much of a problem.
On the EQM, as clearly mentioned in
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...es-2016-a.html, the 500 EQM minima have been miscalculated by AA. They are aware of this and are working up a fix, as well as a retroactive EQM credit adjustment.
Compensation:
As to AA reimbursing hotel costs, there's as much chance of that as there is of a snowstorm at Death Valley in July.
Trip in vain:
I think the agent may have been making it up.
OP can request ORC / original routing credit due to involuntary rerouting. It shouldn't be much of a problem.
On the EQM, as clearly mentioned in
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...es-2016-a.html, the 500 EQM minima have been miscalculated by AA. They are aware of this and are working up a fix, as well as a retroactive EQM credit adjustment.
Compensation:
As to AA reimbursing hotel costs, there's as much chance of that as there is of a snowstorm at Death Valley in July.
Trip in vain:
I think the agent may have been making it up.
As for the agent making it up... You think I have a claim for the trip in vain? Truth is, I was going to MEM and decided to tack on CHS while I was in this part of the country. No way I would have come up from Colombia to say goodbye to one formerly good customer whose plant was shut down in SC and do some shopping in Orlando. This was one expensive bunch of nothing.
Feb 17, 2016, 9:27 am
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The way EQMs are calculated changed this year from the way EQPs were worked out last year. Before the minimum was calculated first, then the class of service multiplier went on top of that. Now, the class of service multiplier is applied, and if that doesn't bring the flight up to the minimum then the minimum is applied. Thus, any flight less than 250 miles in any fare other than full F or J will earn 500 EQM. Any flight longer than that booked into a discounted first or business fare will earn actual mileage * 2.
Taken together, the new system incentivises people to buy the cheapest tickets for short flights: upgrades are now free for all elites, and EQM earning is not enhanced when more expensive fares are purchased. It's totally moronic to me, but then again I'm a really crappy airline CEO so don't listen to me...
Taken together, the new system incentivises people to buy the cheapest tickets for short flights: upgrades are now free for all elites, and EQM earning is not enhanced when more expensive fares are purchased. It's totally moronic to me, but then again I'm a really crappy airline CEO so don't listen to me...
Cheers.
Feb 17, 2016, 9:39 am
#546
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My calculation is not incorrect, it's how things are happening now, as in... what's happening right now. Whether it's what is meant to be happening or what they will be fixing or how it will work later, who knows. I have my own doubts about whether AA will actually ever change it back or retroactively "fix" it; I know that statements and assertions have been made, but I'm personally sceptical. That said, my statement was designed to explain what's happening now and why the maths came out the way they did.
Oct 16, 2016, 1:21 pm
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So I noticed that now that AA is now flying ten Skywest CRJ-700s. I'm guessing these are ex-United aircraft as they only have two rows of F. Pretty frustrating that AA has so many configurations of CR7s, especially now that ten of them have 3 fewer F seats than the rest.
Oct 16, 2016, 3:56 pm
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Oct 16, 2016, 9:21 pm
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Oct 16, 2016, 10:25 pm
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I was booked on one of the blessed things in a couple of weeks on IAH-ORD. The coach seats start numbering as row 8 instead of row 5.
Oct 17, 2016, 5:55 am
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One that I saw yesterday, N738SK, has made a good number of turns to IAH. Used to fly CR7's (9F), then all E75's (12F), and then some MD-80's in 2015. Now going to 6F CR7's. I knew it was a bad day when I heard Envoy was transferring all CR7's to PSA to be based at CLT. The only solice is that ORD is finally seeing more of the Envoy E75's, so maybe the trend will change again.
Oct 17, 2016, 5:56 am
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Oct 17, 2016, 6:41 am
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Oct 17, 2016, 2:22 pm
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The Skywest 700's are going to places like SLC, IAH, BWI, SAT, ORF, and SYR. About 30 are on the way that are being transferred from United paint to AA paint. The seats are the same slim line seats United had but being refurbished to AA type colors. I guess the row numbering system is still old UA as well.
