Mar 6, 2022, 12:20 am
Last edit by: LovePrunes
CAUTION: Buyer Beware! DOES NOT WORK TO GET EXP This way
A caution to anyone who may try this suggestion to earn LPs buying FTD bonsai trees and hoping they get credit as a large multiplier of LP's from FTD. The Original Poster (and others) posted back that it posts as bonus miles and not base, so no LPs are earned.
some data points:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34174381-post70.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34048144-post308.html
Here's the thread on FTD:
A caution to anyone who may try this suggestion to earn LPs buying FTD bonsai trees and hoping they get credit as a large multiplier of LP's from FTD. The Original Poster (and others) posted back that it posts as bonus miles and not base, so no LPs are earned.
some data points:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34174381-post70.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34048144-post308.html
Here's the thread on FTD:
Missing miles/LPs from FTD purchase in mid-Feb
127 bonsai trees for EXP
Jan 4, 2022, 11:10 am
#61
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American Airlines employees monitor Flyer Talk, and I can only imagine some of the emails that were sent from senior employees to their more junior colleagues after this thread was posted.
I'm sure this thread caused two or three AA employees to have a VERY rough start to 2022....in other words, the AA employees had the sort of unpleasant experience due to this thread, that AA passengers have had to endure since the US merger.
I'm sure this thread caused two or three AA employees to have a VERY rough start to 2022....in other words, the AA employees had the sort of unpleasant experience due to this thread, that AA passengers have had to endure since the US merger.
Jan 4, 2022, 12:36 pm
#66
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American Airlines employees monitor Flyer Talk, and I can only imagine some of the emails that were sent from senior employees to their more junior colleagues after this thread was posted.
I'm sure this thread caused two or three AA employees to have a VERY rough start to 2022....in other words, the AA employees had the sort of unpleasant experience due to this thread, that AA passengers have had to endure since the US merger.
I'm sure this thread caused two or three AA employees to have a VERY rough start to 2022....in other words, the AA employees had the sort of unpleasant experience due to this thread, that AA passengers have had to endure since the US merger.
Jan 4, 2022, 12:48 pm
#67
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Economics of the new program? The cost of issuing LP is negligible. The earning structure for LP encourages members to earn LP by activities more profitable to AA (anything but flying a passenger somewhere) compared to those that are less profitable to AA (actually flying a passenger somewhere).
Jan 4, 2022, 12:55 pm
#68
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Between this and "Snack Tower of Sadness" and "cockroaches", my membership amongst this august company has been worth all the electrons that have paid the ultimate sacrifice for my enjoyment and amusement,
Jan 4, 2022, 3:03 pm
#69
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American Airlines employees monitor Flyer Talk, and I can only imagine some of the emails that were sent from senior employees to their more junior colleagues after this thread was posted.
I'm sure this thread caused two or three AA employees to have a VERY rough start to 2022....in other words, the AA employees had the sort of unpleasant experience due to this thread, that AA passengers have had to endure since the US merger.
I'm sure this thread caused two or three AA employees to have a VERY rough start to 2022....in other words, the AA employees had the sort of unpleasant experience due to this thread, that AA passengers have had to endure since the US merger.
Jan 4, 2022, 3:21 pm
#70
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Jan 4, 2022, 4:09 pm
#71
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Of course they didn't. They are not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
Jan 4, 2022, 5:52 pm
#72
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There’s no place I have learned of more loopholes than FlyerTalk. It’s the loophole capital of the internet as far as I’m concerned.
Jan 4, 2022, 5:57 pm
#73
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From what Beckles posted, if the verbiage is "All base miles earned from spending with partners, such as AAdvantage® Dining, SimplyMiles™, and more" rather than "All miles earned from..." my guess is this is probably a 1-LP-per-dollar base rate thing.
With that said, a bonsai tree would look nice on my table here...
With that said, a bonsai tree would look nice on my table here...
Jan 4, 2022, 6:06 pm
#74
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Yes, we do. The app currently says "You've earned X miles in 2021 when they really mean 2020." They can't get flights rerouted robotically through cities besides the original booked ones. They have awarded WAY more EQD/EQM for years for flights on award partners because they can't simply email each other how much their customers spent... ironically creating more loyalty to OneWorld but less per se to one's own airline. So yea, its possible. But we won't know until March to be sure.
Jan 4, 2022, 6:12 pm
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From what Beckles posted, if the verbiage is "All base miles earned from spending with partners, such as AAdvantage® Dining, SimplyMiles™, and more" rather than "All miles earned from..." my guess is this is probably a 1-LP-per-dollar base rate thing.
All that being said, someone in AAdvantage Galactic HQ needs to get off their bottom and just share with us members how this is actually working. Someone at AAdvantage should be able to put together a table that shows each partner, what mileage earnings from that partner earn LP, and what mileage earnings from that partner do not earn LP. It's completely inexcusable that AA has not done this yet.