happiest_at_40000

Were you equally successful at the front end Vs. the back end?

So something like ORD-MIA-LAX accessing in ORD on the way to the Transcon F Vs. LAX-MIA-ORD with now ORD being at the end of the trip..

Very frustrating they cant just put in writing that FL/FFD access is avail along the entire day of travel for the Transcon routes

happiest_at_40000

Has anyone every been told that there is a limit of time to FFD ? Or a limit of how many meals you can eat? I've never heard this been reported but upon arriving on a red eye from LAX in 2 weeks I would like to have breakfast, relax a bit, maybe nap an hour and then have lunch at 11am when they switch over. And then go to TWA to work out, swim & check out the hotel but return for an early FFD dinner before a 7pm flight. There is absolutely nothing at all about number of meals or time at FFD so I imagine I will be fine. And I can mention upon leaving that I will be back in a few hours but not sure that really matters. I'd feel better if the qualifying flight was the 7pm and not the arriving red eye although it really shouldnt matter.

GrumpyYoungMan

Yes, it was on the front end. DFW-LAX-JFK.

sportsguymichael

champagne was still offered when you enter the FL lounge at JFK as of Monday, Sept 20, the last time I was there

KSVVZ2015

but JFK is different given the CCR

teemuflyer

Unfortunately no one gets access to FFD at IAD or BOS, since they don't have them .

VFR

I meant the British Airways F dining. Poor writing on my part.

happiest_at_40000

Do you all anticipate maybe FFD hours @ MIA will be different than pre Covid so to reflect all the 77W’s on the LAX-MIA route? I believe in October there are 7 a day. So nice to have them open @ 8 or 9 and not 230/3 how it was before.
two red eyes coming in on 77W and morning departures too. Just not sure that route is that important to them to open FFD 6 hours ish earlier than what would coincide w the 77W’s to LHR and GRU.

DMPHL

I think you'd be pushing it upon your return. You're correct that there is no official time limit, but I imagine the agents at the front will probably say you've already used your FFD invitation. Staying through lunch is probably pushing it as far as you can, especially if you are taking a nap and then coming back into FFD for another meal. That should be fine, although probably rare. Arriving on a red eye, accessing the FL and FFD on that BP, leaving the terminal, and then attempting to use the same BP to access it a second time for an evening flight is something I wouldn't count on them allowing.

happiest_at_40000

I completely understand your thinking and get where you are coming from but since AA has no mention of the number of visits you get to FFD on the same day I mean its certainly worth fighting if told No. Also, I would think the people inside FFD would remember me from hours earlier and as long as I got into FL I'd probably be welcomed back and doubt they'd ask for a new FFD pass given I would have presented one earlier. I always leave a nice tip so maybe that would come back to help me when I return. Of course if stopped at the check in desk then ya might be irrelevant.

If I'm not mistaken the poster on Sept 16 above who put up the FFD menu at JFK and pic of the eggs & fish said they had breakfast & "returned" for lunch but I guess that doesnt mean they actually left FL. I am actually Not leaving FL on purpose after breakfast for the simple fact that I am worried about not being let back in maybe to FL or if let in not being given a 2nd pass for FFD. I'd prefer to find a spot for a nap in the lounge thus leaving FFD but not leaving FL. My plan is at 11am to be there for lunch and then yes leave the lounge & airside and head to TWA for 5-6 hours before returning for FFD dinner. I am def. worried about getting in then given my BP will be from the red eye the night before and not a departing qualifying flight.

Do you think though if the red eye was not the qualifying flight but say my 7pm was......Then at 7am would they let me in or say 12 hours is too far in advance? And if they did let me in and i had FFD then and then did the same TWA 5 hours & return i cant see them saying sorry you cant have FFD again, given the 7pm flight is the qualifying flight.

This all goes to even more reason why some written rules would be nice. This may be a bit out there and most ppl maybe wouldnt come back 6 hours later but I cant be the only one thinking of doing this. AA site doesnt even mention that access upon arrival is allowed or at a connecting FL hub is allowed so no way they will get into FFD time frame use specifics.

safari ari

What’s the perceived timing of LAX FL opening up? I know TPAC travel is down, but would assume one OW lounge could be utilized for how many airlines still fly into it.

Global321

Last comes to mind.

TPAC "down" is probably an understatement. Other than the Thailand sandbox on Phuket, Asia is pretty solidly locked down with no solid opening planned. (And no Thailand service is available from LAX.)

Flights to Europe are going, but, just as easy to encourage people to go via mid-west (ORD/DFW) or east-coast (JFK/MIA). Those airports have lots of European travel, as well as some South America. Not saying that is as convenient, but, there are only a few European flights out of LAX right now. Probably makes more sense to open the others first and then late in the year or early next year, LAX. But I have no inside info.

safari ari

Yup, I don’t disagree, LAX was the Asia gateway, and that’s pretty much gone (but not fully from a customers sake). But LAX still does provide 2 (3?) flagship routes to MIA/JFK (BOS Soon??) which also serves a purpose over ORD. Not to mention their JV partners still fly at least 1x daily and AY as well, with Europe being open now. Not disagreeing and really hoping for a timeframe, but I see LAX having a little more value than it’s given. Just, what we the customer value and AA values is wildly different.

Global321

That is a good point. And there are 6 LAX/MIA and 9 LAX/JFK. If you really want them to be premium, it is a good argument to open sooner.

tfizzle

I"m EXP on a LAX-MIA in J in two weeks would that qualify for FFD? Thanks.