ARCHIVE: 2015-17 AA Premium Economy / PE / PEY on widebody a/c announced
May 22, 2017, 1:22 pm
#691
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, AA Million Miles, Hilton Diamond
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LH - longhaul (not Lufthansa)
SH - shorthual (not Sharp Airlines)
But confusing to be sure.
May 22, 2017, 1:47 pm
#692
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,998
I am looking at using AA Business MileSAAver awards to a trip where I would fly the LH in J, and since there is no J on the SH connecting flight, I would be willing to downgrade cabin of service for that segment. Problem, no Y available, only PE. AA can't downgrade to the PE cabin using AA J awards, even though they are available to other OW carriers using their award currency.
I sure hope this changes soon.
Rant over..
I sure hope this changes soon.
Rant over..
May 22, 2017, 1:49 pm
#693
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,087
May 22, 2017, 3:06 pm
#694
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: AA 1.6MM EXP; UA GS; SPG LTG,Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,477
Would I wish for PE redemption opportunities if that meant eliminating Y-J SWUs? Probably not; I guess this is likely a choice that would pit the interests of EXPs against PLT/GLD members.
The other question is if PE redemption opportunities did exist, would they be a reasonable use of miles in terms of cpm. All depends on pricing of course but my bet is that they would not be as efficient a use of miles (i.e. closer to Y redemption value than J redemption value)
May 22, 2017, 7:08 pm
#695
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,998
That's a wish that goes hand-in-hand with eliminating Y-J SWUs (full OW alignment means upgrades go from Y-W, or W-J)...
Would I wish for PE redemption opportunities if that meant eliminating Y-J SWUs? Probably not; I guess this is likely a choice that would pit the interests of EXPs against PLT/GLD members.
The other question is if PE redemption opportunities did exist, would they be a reasonable use of miles in terms of cpm. All depends on pricing of course but my bet is that they would not be as efficient a use of miles (i.e. closer to Y redemption value than J redemption value)
Would I wish for PE redemption opportunities if that meant eliminating Y-J SWUs? Probably not; I guess this is likely a choice that would pit the interests of EXPs against PLT/GLD members.
The other question is if PE redemption opportunities did exist, would they be a reasonable use of miles in terms of cpm. All depends on pricing of course but my bet is that they would not be as efficient a use of miles (i.e. closer to Y redemption value than J redemption value)
May 27, 2017, 4:24 pm
#696
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: TX
Programs: AA: EXP MR: Ti
Posts: 495
are there any revised seatmaps or seat counts by class for the PE retrofit aircraft (other than the 789)? I see on AAs schedule they're starting the 772s in June, I would expect the plan to be known by now. Maybe I missed this.
May 30, 2017, 12:23 pm
#697
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: SNA
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Posts: 1,204
Is the recline on AA PEY worse than CX PEY? Having flown both, I feel like I prefer CX's product but I can't quite put my finger on why. AA should be superior, just looking at the specs: leather seats vs cloth, better food on AA (my opinion), and my preference flying on a 788 vs 77W.
May 30, 2017, 2:10 pm
#698
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: CLT
Programs: AA Platinum Pro, DL UA
Posts: 457
I read on The Points Guy today that PEY of the AA B772 will be 24 seats in three rows - 2-4-2 configuration. These flights will offer PEY for purchase as of 12/15/2017.
May 30, 2017, 4:03 pm
#699
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: IND
Posts: 2,005
Between L3 and L4, there are 13 (window) rows of Y. Without losing any seat, 2 additional rows (3 for the middle block) will become MCE. That means less pitch. Current Y pitch is 31-32 according to the seatguru and AA website. Will it become 30-31"?
Above observation is from NRT-DFW at late December. JFK departures don't show PEY 772s as of yet. Wonder if AA will reduce J from 45 to 37 to unify configuration or not.
Edit: 789 is already 30-31. So this movement will only make it 'fair'.
Last edited by bobbybrown; May 30, 2017 at 4:10 pm
May 31, 2017, 7:55 pm
#700
Join Date: Oct 2016
Programs: AA PLT, AS MVPG, WN CP
Posts: 63
Is the recline on AA PEY worse than CX PEY? Having flown both, I feel like I prefer CX's product but I can't quite put my finger on why. AA should be superior, just looking at the specs: leather seats vs cloth, better food on AA (my opinion), and my preference flying on a 788 vs 77W.
May 31, 2017, 10:58 pm
#701
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Jun 2, 2017, 4:31 pm
#702
Join Date: May 2015
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 179
How can I buy PEY on just one segment? For example, I'm looking at LAX-MIA-EZE in Jan 2018. PEY is available on the MIA-EZE since it's on a 772. However, when I choose PEY during the booking process, it puts me in full fare economy (Y) on the LAX-MIA flight where PEY doesn't exist. This results in a significantly higher price.
When I look at a regular economy ticket, the LAX-MIA books into discount economy (L). Am I able to book LAX-MIA in L and MIA-EZE in W?
When I look at a regular economy ticket, the LAX-MIA books into discount economy (L). Am I able to book LAX-MIA in L and MIA-EZE in W?
Jun 2, 2017, 9:09 pm
#703
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: AA LT Gold
Posts: 3,646
How can I buy PEY on just one segment? For example, I'm looking at LAX-MIA-EZE in Jan 2018. PEY is available on the MIA-EZE since it's on a 772. However, when I choose PEY during the booking process, it puts me in full fare economy (Y) on the LAX-MIA flight where PEY doesn't exist. This results in a significantly higher price.
When I look at a regular economy ticket, the LAX-MIA books into discount economy (L). Am I able to book LAX-MIA in L and MIA-EZE in W?
When I look at a regular economy ticket, the LAX-MIA books into discount economy (L). Am I able to book LAX-MIA in L and MIA-EZE in W?
Have you tried checking the PE price for MIA-EZE RT separately? What do you get?
Jun 2, 2017, 11:07 pm
#704
Join Date: May 2015
Location: WAS, SZX, HKG
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, CX Green
Posts: 735
How can I buy PEY on just one segment? For example, I'm looking at LAX-MIA-EZE in Jan 2018. PEY is available on the MIA-EZE since it's on a 772. However, when I choose PEY during the booking process, it puts me in full fare economy (Y) on the LAX-MIA flight where PEY doesn't exist. This results in a significantly higher price.
When I look at a regular economy ticket, the LAX-MIA books into discount economy (L). Am I able to book LAX-MIA in L and MIA-EZE in W?
When I look at a regular economy ticket, the LAX-MIA books into discount economy (L). Am I able to book LAX-MIA in L and MIA-EZE in W?
Jun 3, 2017, 10:03 am
#705
Join Date: May 2015
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 179
It seems that I'm paying significantly more because the domestic leg is booking into Y.
I will probably book the cheapest flight and then call in about upfaring just the MIA-EZE-MIA segments. If that isn't possible, I will take my chances with SWUs.