ARCHIVE: 2015-17 AA Premium Economy / PE / PEY on widebody a/c announced
Mar 30, 2017, 7:14 pm
#661
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People seem to think that PE redemptions might also come with changes to upgrade rules (and maybe even award chart increases to premium cabin awards ), so perhaps the longer it takes the better? ;-)
Mar 30, 2017, 7:42 pm
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Mar 31, 2017, 7:11 am
#663
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Just curious - how do AA's PEY seats compare to - say - CX's? Just from the picture looks like AA's don't recline as much, but hard to say.
Sigh - we are due for another unannounced deval are't we? Glad we burned off some miles when we had the chance! Personally as long as PEY is priced reasonably and one can still upgrade discount PEY to J for the same miles+copay rates, I'd be ok with it. Might be in the minority here though so I get that.
Sigh - we are due for another unannounced deval are't we? Glad we burned off some miles when we had the chance! Personally as long as PEY is priced reasonably and one can still upgrade discount PEY to J for the same miles+copay rates, I'd be ok with it. Might be in the minority here though so I get that.
Mar 31, 2017, 7:25 am
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The JL seat is the easy winner. Mainly because the seat is a shell, and therefore the seat in front of you does not recline into your pitch space at all. It's incredibly spacious. It is listed at 42" of pitch, vs. AA's 38". But, again, when you recline the AA seat, your pitch is cut way back.
I was very surprised at how far the JL seat reclined. I think it's more than AA's, because it slides /articulates forward to recline vs. just reclining back.
Also, the JL seat is cloth. Much more comfortable, IMO.
JL is behind on the soft service, though. It's just a Y service in PY, basically. AA's drink / meal service is better.
Mar 31, 2017, 8:03 am
#665
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Mar 31, 2017, 8:27 am
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It is listed at 42" of pitch, vs. AA's 38".
Mar 31, 2017, 9:33 am
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Apr 2, 2017, 9:46 pm
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My guess is that a devaluation long term would feel less impactful if dosed out in stages. Hence my speculation (freely admitted that I have no basis in fact or insight to back it up, and I'd love to be proven wrong and to hear that this isn't going to be the case from someone like you) that USdbaAA, in a less competitive, less over-capacity air travel market, is slowly boiling the frog. And going from 8 to 4 SWUs is the heat level set at simmer, with the boil setting to come in the next year or so.
Obviously nothing I can do about it except take my business elsewhere (there is GS-level spend going to UA from me these days - that could have gone to AA)...but I have no faith or expectations in the current management team that they will use the FF program as a competitive value proposition to attract flyers.
Obviously nothing I can do about it except take my business elsewhere (there is GS-level spend going to UA from me these days - that could have gone to AA)...but I have no faith or expectations in the current management team that they will use the FF program as a competitive value proposition to attract flyers.
Apr 3, 2017, 6:42 am
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I flew in a new PE seat (DFW-GRU), and the pitch sucks. Not a huge amount better than MCE to tell the truth, and certainly not worth the $600-$700 they are charging. If they really devalue the systemwide upgrades that much, then I'll switch to United. Unless they give lifetime PltPro @ 3 million miles. I'll hit that, then switch to United.
Apr 3, 2017, 7:58 am
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I just talked to AA about something odd I saw on some flights (DFW-HKG) - no upgrades offered. I called the EXP desk to inquire and the person I spoke with said that even though there were lots of seats, none would be offered as upgrades (using systemwides), but you could waitlist.
Apr 10, 2017, 2:48 pm
#674
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Food was great--the quinoa for breakfast looked awful but ended up tasting surprisingly good. Service delivery was not so pleasant--I got the sense FAs were doing me a favor doing service. (e.g. I'll check to see if I can get you some water, in the middle of the flight)
Apr 12, 2017, 3:00 pm
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It's noticeably slower in J, too.
