ARCHIVE: 2015-17 AA Premium Economy / PE / PEY on widebody a/c announced
Jun 3, 2017, 12:21 pm
#706
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Yes. The RT price for LAX-MIA-EZE-MIA-LAX is $1459 in economy and $2454 in PEY (Y+W). The RT for just MIA-EZE-MIA is $1455 in economy and $1892 in PEY.
It seems that I'm paying significantly more because the domestic leg is booking into Y.
I will probably book the cheapest flight and then call in about upfaring just the MIA-EZE-MIA segments. If that isn't possible, I will take my chances with SWUs.
It seems that I'm paying significantly more because the domestic leg is booking into Y.
I will probably book the cheapest flight and then call in about upfaring just the MIA-EZE-MIA segments. If that isn't possible, I will take my chances with SWUs.
You cannot combine the fares since AA's rules on MIA-EZE lowest premium economy fares state that END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES WITHIN UNITED STATES.
You could do it by buying 2 separate tickets if you are happy with the restrictions that will give
Looking at the fare listing from EF, the lowest LAX-EZE premium economy fare seems to be about $400 more than the MIA-EZE r/t fare; the extra $200 may be due to availability
Last edited by Dave Noble; Jun 3, 2017 at 12:27 pm
Jun 3, 2017, 2:48 pm
#707
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If you want to upgrade the fare, it will be upgraded to the $2454 since it is a LAX-EZE r/t fare.
You cannot combine the fares since AA's rules on MIA-EZE lowest premium economy fares state that END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES WITHIN UNITED STATES.
You could do it by buying 2 separate tickets if you are happy with the restrictions that will give
Looking at the fare listing from EF, the lowest LAX-EZE premium economy fare seems to be about $400 more than the MIA-EZE r/t fare; the extra $200 may be due to availability
You cannot combine the fares since AA's rules on MIA-EZE lowest premium economy fares state that END-ON-END COMBINATIONS NOT PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES WITHIN UNITED STATES.
You could do it by buying 2 separate tickets if you are happy with the restrictions that will give
Looking at the fare listing from EF, the lowest LAX-EZE premium economy fare seems to be about $400 more than the MIA-EZE r/t fare; the extra $200 may be due to availability
Jun 5, 2017, 1:12 am
#708
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In the comments of the article, JT made the following statement:
On the "complimentary same-day upgrades": An AA spokesperson has confirmed to me that this is NOT the case now or the plan to add this. I expressed that I was very disappointed in this. Lots of undersold PE cabins since May 4. Seems PE is turning into a nonrev cabin.
Does anyone else have information about this? It seems to be contradictory to what we've been led to believe.
On the "complimentary same-day upgrades": An AA spokesperson has confirmed to me that this is NOT the case now or the plan to add this. I expressed that I was very disappointed in this. Lots of undersold PE cabins since May 4. Seems PE is turning into a nonrev cabin.
Does anyone else have information about this? It seems to be contradictory to what we've been led to believe.
Jun 5, 2017, 4:00 am
#709
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^ Correct, to my knowledge as well.
I have an EXP friend who called EXP line T24 from his DFW-MAD last Friday (2 June) and requested PY for him and his non-status companion. They were both given PY seats complimentary.
I have an EXP friend who called EXP line T24 from his DFW-MAD last Friday (2 June) and requested PY for him and his non-status companion. They were both given PY seats complimentary.
Jun 5, 2017, 10:28 am
#710
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I was on a flight 3 weeks ago from ICN to DFW.
The Premium Economy Section was empty.
I asked at the gate if I could upgrade and was told no. So the plane flew from ICN to DFW with 21 seats empty.
The Premium Economy Section was empty.
I asked at the gate if I could upgrade and was told no. So the plane flew from ICN to DFW with 21 seats empty.
Jun 5, 2017, 3:50 pm
#711
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This sounds just completely ridiculous. Borderline absurd. AA really needs to get its act together and fast.
Jun 5, 2017, 3:51 pm
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Jun 5, 2017, 4:37 pm
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I think it was bizarre that AA at 1st looked at giving away PE to those with status. How is it any more absurd to not give away access to the premium economy cabin than it is to not give away access to the business cabin?
Jun 5, 2017, 7:03 pm
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You and I almost universally agree in our sentiments on this board and I always respect your insights. You know I keep things in perspective. Is this absolute absurdity as in charging for water or some of the other bone headed decisions that have been made by certain management teams in the past? Clearly not.
BUT
To have an entire cabin go empty on a flight? When people are asking to upgrade into it? I'm EXP and I would pay to upgrade into PEY. To still have no option to access this cabin, or for AA to monetize a product that it's spent millions to develop, is ridiculous. My reaction MAY be a result of my prior expectation of receiving the free same day upgrades to PEY, but I would also be willing to pay for it too. To have no means to access an entire cabin, and sending it out empty, is just silly. You don't agree that this inconsistency is a little crazy?
Airlines today are constantly looking for ways to monetize everything. To be this far along into the PEY product launch and to have cabins going out completely empty is silly. Or worse, filled with non-revs. When MCE rolled out, there were systems in place, whether at POS or at checkin, at the gate, etc, that immediately capitalized on the new revenue potential.
BUT
To have an entire cabin go empty on a flight? When people are asking to upgrade into it? I'm EXP and I would pay to upgrade into PEY. To still have no option to access this cabin, or for AA to monetize a product that it's spent millions to develop, is ridiculous. My reaction MAY be a result of my prior expectation of receiving the free same day upgrades to PEY, but I would also be willing to pay for it too. To have no means to access an entire cabin, and sending it out empty, is just silly. You don't agree that this inconsistency is a little crazy?
Airlines today are constantly looking for ways to monetize everything. To be this far along into the PEY product launch and to have cabins going out completely empty is silly. Or worse, filled with non-revs. When MCE rolled out, there were systems in place, whether at POS or at checkin, at the gate, etc, that immediately capitalized on the new revenue potential.
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Jun 5, 2017, 7:24 pm
#715
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You can pay for it - just need to pay the fare difference between economy and premium economy. Since this is a cabin upgrade, there is no change fee to pay
Jun 5, 2017, 9:41 pm
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To be this far along into the PEY product launch and to have cabins going out completely empty is silly. Or worse, filled with non-revs. When MCE rolled out, there were systems in place, whether at POS or at checkin, at the gate, etc, that immediately capitalized on the new revenue potential.
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Jun 5, 2017, 11:15 pm
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It is a new product - it may just take a while for people to start really booking it
It is quite different to MCE , since MCE is still part of economy class
Jun 6, 2017, 4:09 am
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Conversely, making the cabin known to be available on the cheap will help encourage people to rely on that rather than actually booking premium economy
It is a new product - it may just take a while for people to start really booking it
It is quite different to MCE , since MCE is still part of economy class
It is a new product - it may just take a while for people to start really booking it
It is quite different to MCE , since MCE is still part of economy class
I'm possibly flying on a AA 789 flight later this week. There are currently 2 seats occupied in the PE cabin yet the cost difference is more than double the cheapest Y fare. I cannot image there will be too many takers at that price differential.
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Jun 24, 2017, 10:13 pm
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Premium Economy to Sydney (when?)
When will Premium Economy be availble for booking / sale on AA's flights to Sydney? Will AA be offering better catering than the Y service?