Aug 17, 2015, 9:59 am
Last edit by: WindowSeatFlyer
NOTE: Discussion here is for the Boeing 777-200ERs refitted with the Zodiac "Concept D" Business Suite (forward and aft facing seats) only.
See the (unofficial) American Fleet Site list for configuration by registration numbers here.
Forward facing seats are overlooked by rear facing occupants across the aisle
Forward facing seats have one armrest (aisle side of seat)
Rear facing seats do not have armrests leading to a "bathtub" effect
Rear facing seats are preferred by many fliers for greater shoulder space
Forward facing seats require use of a shoulder strap in addition to the seat lap belt during takeoff and landing operations
Seat 1A is blocked for pilot rest on flights > 8 hours.
Seats 7A and 7L have restricted views (window blank)
Seats 1A, 1D, 1H, 7A, 7L, 10A, and 10L are not coupled to neighbouring seats and are reported to be less susceptible to "rocking" and "knocking"
Seats 10D and 10H are overlooked by occupants in 13B and 13J respectively.
Seats 5A and 6L are overlooked by galley occupants
Seats 10A and 10L are close to Premium Economy bassinets
Cabin overhead storage bins are capacious and when closed give the aircraft a more open, spacious feel.
In-suite storage is minimal, consisting of a niche with "fence" capable of holding a mobile phone connected to one of the two USB ports and a small area below seat level capable of holding a water bottle and small item. (two 110V AC with a "universal" plug socket is also provided.)
The area under the footrest (too small to be called an ottoman) might be able to store a purse or small item.
General fit and finish has been described as fair at best, with some gaps, misfits, etc.
IFE is AVOD and operates from a hand control. The spacious screen is hinged and can not be tilted vertically.
WiFi is Panasonic satellite international WiFi
Bang & Olufsen noise reducing headsets are provided in Business Class; these are retrieved by crew about an hour prior to landing.
A self-service snack bar is set up in the galley for Business class.
Lavatories seem more open and spacious, and offer higher volume sink basins.
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See the (unofficial) American Fleet Site list for configuration by registration numbers here.
Forward facing seats are overlooked by rear facing occupants across the aisle
Forward facing seats have one armrest (aisle side of seat)
Rear facing seats do not have armrests leading to a "bathtub" effect
Rear facing seats are preferred by many fliers for greater shoulder space
Forward facing seats require use of a shoulder strap in addition to the seat lap belt during takeoff and landing operations
Seat 1A is blocked for pilot rest on flights > 8 hours.
Seats 7A and 7L have restricted views (window blank)
Seats 1A, 1D, 1H, 7A, 7L, 10A, and 10L are not coupled to neighbouring seats and are reported to be less susceptible to "rocking" and "knocking"
Seats 10D and 10H are overlooked by occupants in 13B and 13J respectively.
Seats 5A and 6L are overlooked by galley occupants
Seats 10A and 10L are close to Premium Economy bassinets
Cabin overhead storage bins are capacious and when closed give the aircraft a more open, spacious feel.
In-suite storage is minimal, consisting of a niche with "fence" capable of holding a mobile phone connected to one of the two USB ports and a small area below seat level capable of holding a water bottle and small item. (two 110V AC with a "universal" plug socket is also provided.)
The area under the footrest (too small to be called an ottoman) might be able to store a purse or small item.
General fit and finish has been described as fair at best, with some gaps, misfits, etc.
IFE is AVOD and operates from a hand control. The spacious screen is hinged and can not be tilted vertically.
WiFi is Panasonic satellite international WiFi
Bang & Olufsen noise reducing headsets are provided in Business Class; these are retrieved by crew about an hour prior to landing.
A self-service snack bar is set up in the galley for Business class.
Lavatories seem more open and spacious, and offer higher volume sink basins.
Related threads
Aircraft guide: Which 777-200ER / 772 / 777? (As of 11 Dec 2018)
772 Refitted 777-200ER B/E Aerospace Super Diamond Business Seat / Seats
Best 772 Zodiac J Refitted 777-200ER MCE and Economy / Coach Seat / Seats
Best 772 B/E Aerospace J Refitted 777-200ER MCE & Economy / Coach Seat / Seats
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May 27, 2017, 11:49 pm
#361
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Thanks! That makes me feel better. Already anxious about traveling so long with a 15 month old.
Jun 11, 2017, 1:17 pm
#362
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Ugh, AA just changed out our nice 767-300 middle row seats (7D and 7G) with a 777-200 (the 10-row FC), and all the FC seats are taken and the computer re-assigned to 8A and 8D). Grrrr.
This was Flight #7 on 2/2/18 and now it's Flight #119 (same date) from DFW to OGG.
I believe this is "version 3" (from Seat Guru)?. Do I have the correct forum for this aircraft?
My math counts 37 FC Seats, according to AA when I try to change seats (got the email notification a few minutes ago, and all seats are taken, so can't change).
This was Flight #7 on 2/2/18 and now it's Flight #119 (same date) from DFW to OGG.
I believe this is "version 3" (from Seat Guru)?. Do I have the correct forum for this aircraft?
My math counts 37 FC Seats, according to AA when I try to change seats (got the email notification a few minutes ago, and all seats are taken, so can't change).
Jun 11, 2017, 1:29 pm
#364
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,536
Thanks, so I'm guessing that the 2 major issues still persist?
1) Seat divider (now that we're seated apart, I guess it'll be an issue for whichever of us is in the middle seat) is either up/down and can't be changed?
2) Connected seats (middle seats, not in rows 1 or 7) still have movement issues?
1) Seat divider (now that we're seated apart, I guess it'll be an issue for whichever of us is in the middle seat) is either up/down and can't be changed?
2) Connected seats (middle seats, not in rows 1 or 7) still have movement issues?
Jun 11, 2017, 1:46 pm
#365
Join Date: Apr 2009
Programs: American EXP; British Airways Gold
Posts: 1,896
Thanks, so I'm guessing that the 2 major issues still persist?
1) Seat divider (now that we're seated apart, I guess it'll be an issue for whichever of us is in the middle seat) is either up/down and can't be changed?
2) Connected seats (middle seats, not in rows 1 or 7) still have movement issues?
1) Seat divider (now that we're seated apart, I guess it'll be an issue for whichever of us is in the middle seat) is either up/down and can't be changed?
2) Connected seats (middle seats, not in rows 1 or 7) still have movement issues?
8A and 8D (your seats) are connected to other seats, and are subject to the movement issues.
Jun 11, 2017, 2:43 pm
#366
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,536
Thanks again. Hopefully either AA puts the 767 back in service (looks like both our outbound and return flights the 767 flights just were all-out cancelled). Never got a notice for the HNL to DFW route on 2/19/18, so I was fortunate that I accidentally just checked, and sure enough, 777 as well. At least on that flight, was able to get us moved from 10A/D to 7D/7H. I'm fairly certain those don't have connected movement issues, although we may get stuck with an "up" divider. (Seriously, whose the idiot at AA that picked these seat designs?)
Jun 11, 2017, 4:17 pm
#367
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Thanks again. Hopefully either AA puts the 767 back in service (looks like both our outbound and return flights the 767 flights just were all-out cancelled). Never got a notice for the HNL to DFW route on 2/19/18, so I was fortunate that I accidentally just checked, and sure enough, 777 as well. At least on that flight, was able to get us moved from 10A/D to 7D/7H. I'm fairly certain those don't have connected movement issues, although we may get stuck with an "up" divider. (Seriously, whose the idiot at AA that picked these seat designs?)
Jun 11, 2017, 6:30 pm
#368
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Posts: 1,536
Although rumor has it that the 777 has satellite wifi? (or is that only on the other 777 config?)
Jun 13, 2017, 12:09 am
#369
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Recently flew this config for the first time; I opted for 3A to try a connected seat as it was a daytime flight and I did not plan on sleeping. The movement issue with the connected seats is absolutely awful. I could feel the movement from my neighbor throughout the flight, and it is not at all subtle/insubstantial. If I were planning on sleeping, I'd never take this config unless I were in an unconnected seat.
In the wiki of the main thread for this config ( http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...iscussion.html ), wifi is mentioned so I'm assuming all frames with this config have it. It worked well on my recent flight.
Jun 13, 2017, 9:18 am
#370
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,536
Recently flew this config for the first time; I opted for 3A to try a connected seat as it was a daytime flight and I did not plan on sleeping. The movement issue with the connected seats is absolutely awful. I could feel the movement from my neighbor throughout the flight, and it is not at all subtle/insubstantial. If I were planning on sleeping, I'd never take this config unless I were in an unconnected seat.
In the wiki of the main thread for this config ( http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...iscussion.html ), wifi is mentioned so I'm assuming all frames with this config have it. It worked well on my recent flight.
In the wiki of the main thread for this config ( http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...iscussion.html ), wifi is mentioned so I'm assuming all frames with this config have it. It worked well on my recent flight.
Jun 13, 2017, 11:17 pm
#371
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Sorry, I have not read all 25 pages. New to AA. Can someone kindly explain why Seat Guru lists the J seats on the 772 V2 and V3 as having width between 21 and 26 inches? Do the seat arms retract?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
Jun 14, 2017, 9:01 am
#372
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Some people indicate that if you have broad shoulders it can be a little tight, but that the rear facing seats seem to offer more shoulder width.
Jun 14, 2017, 5:48 pm
#373
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7L window is unusable in seated position. You have to lie flat to look out it. I assume that's also true of 7A leaving only row one A and L being desirable?
my wife said the motion issue in 8L wasn't too bad, making me think it had the stiffeners put in. (109 lhr-lax on 6/14)
my wife said the motion issue in 8L wasn't too bad, making me think it had the stiffeners put in. (109 lhr-lax on 6/14)
Last edited by beachfan; Jun 14, 2017 at 8:56 pm
Jun 14, 2017, 5:53 pm
#374
Join Date: Apr 2009
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7L window is unusable in seated position. You have to lie flat to look out it. I assume that's also true of 7A leaving only row one A and L being desirable?
my wife said the motion issue in L wasn't too bad, making me think it had the stiffeners put in. (109 lhr-lax on 6/14)
my wife said the motion issue in L wasn't too bad, making me think it had the stiffeners put in. (109 lhr-lax on 6/14)