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This is the archive for posts relating to Business Extra (nee Business ExtrAA) since 2008.
The current, active Business Extra thread is Business Extra Program master thread (consolidated)
The current, active Business Extra thread is Business Extra Program master thread (consolidated)
ARCHIVE: Business Extra Program master thread (consolidated)
#46


Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: SFO/OAK/CCR
Programs: AA LT PLT
Posts: 997
Have to second that emoticon ^^^^ just had an exceptionAAl BE agent help with a BX1A award that figured out how to book an open-jaw round trip with an open dated return that allows me later to make the one date change to a flight which will be beyond the one year ticketing date; all without having to pay the $150 change fee as long as it is the only change I attempt to make. She made copious notes in the record, I was on with her while she read them to me, and really went out of her way to assist on such a weird ticketing request.
#47
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: AA
Posts: 68
Since this is revenue based, does that mean the entire itinerary? Codeshares don't count (i.e NRT-SIN on JL codeshare with AA?)
That would seem to preclude any itinerary to asia beyond NRT or PVG from counting--that seems harsh...
That would seem to preclude any itinerary to asia beyond NRT or PVG from counting--that seems harsh...
#48
Moderator: New York City and FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Sep 2007
Programs: AA PPro, Natl EC
Posts: 10,884
I've done mixed itineraries on AA and BA and gotten partial credit. The problem is that you never know how much they're going to deduct for the BA flights (if, for example, the flights are part of the same fare segment).
#49
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: DFW/DAL
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT, AS MVPG, HH Diamond, NCL Platinum Plus, MSC Diamond
Posts: 21,424
Considering using a Business Extraa upgrade for JFK-SFO? I realize that you can't have N, S, O or Q nor can you confirm more than 30 days in advance but otherwise do these upgrades pull from the same space (e.g. C inventory for Business Class and A inventory for first) as mileage upgrades?
#50
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland/Nashville,TN
Programs: AA EXP, 3 MM, HH Gold, SPG Plat
Posts: 57
definetely recommend the 3000 points for a transatlantic upg. the business extraa desk are awesome.
#51
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: STL
Programs: AA 2MM, AS MVP Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 12,966
If you select "View Awards", so you are looking at the list of awards, you can click on any award to view the terms and conditions for that award. That is where the rules are listed, and it is a complete and definitive listing. I would use that list, rather than what somebody on FT might tell me.
#52
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2
I have found Business Extraa and their services to be a complete waist of time. It is a hassle and it should be a better system. The agents in that area are spotty and only rarely do you find a helpful one. I am a member but I am not sure why I bother anymore. My recommendation is don't bother with the program until American changes the way it works. Why is it different point system? Cashing the is not straightforward. I have had agent's lie to me and called them out on it.
It is a poorly run program and is not worth the hassles that come with it.
It is a poorly run program and is not worth the hassles that come with it.
#53
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: San Juan, PR, USA
Programs: AA PLT 1MM, Starwood Preferred, Hilton Gold VIP
Posts: 310
I have found Business Extraa and their services to be a complete waist of time. It is a hassle and it should be a better system. The agents in that area are spotty and only rarely do you find a helpful one. I am a member but I am not sure why I bother anymore. My recommendation is don't bother with the program until American changes the way it works. Why is it different point system? Cashing the is not straightforward. I have had agent's lie to me and called them out on it.
It is a poorly run program and is not worth the hassles that come with it.
It is a poorly run program and is not worth the hassles that come with it.
#54
Moderator: New York City and FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Sep 2007
Programs: AA PPro, Natl EC
Posts: 10,884
I have found Business Extraa and their services to be a complete waist of time. It is a hassle and it should be a better system. The agents in that area are spotty and only rarely do you find a helpful one. I am a member but I am not sure why I bother anymore. My recommendation is don't bother with the program until American changes the way it works. Why is it different point system? Cashing the is not straightforward. I have had agent's lie to me and called them out on it.
It is a poorly run program and is not worth the hassles that come with it.
It is a poorly run program and is not worth the hassles that come with it.
Other than getting forwarded to Meeting Services agents (who have all of the same capabilities as regular agents) when you call Reservations during business hours, what are the hassles that make it not worthwhile to accumulate points for free?
I agree that the accounting is not as transparent as it could be, and it takes extra effort on our part to make sure that things are credited properly, but I just don't see the downside since it's free.
I'm also curious as to what lies, specifically, you have been told?
#55




Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: SAT
Programs: AA EXP BA Gold, TK Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AS 100K, QR PLT, SAS Gold, IHG Ambassador
Posts: 5,925
I have found Business Extraa and their services to be a complete waist of time. It is a hassle and it should be a better system. The agents in that area are spotty and only rarely do you find a helpful one. I am a member but I am not sure why I bother anymore. My recommendation is don't bother with the program until American changes the way it works. Why is it different point system? Cashing the is not straightforward. I have had agent's lie to me and called them out on it.
It is a poorly run program and is not worth the hassles that come with it.
It is a poorly run program and is not worth the hassles that come with it.
Thanks
#56
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2
Business ExtrAA continues to waist my time.
Here is a letter I sent to customer service.
December 8th, 2009
To whom it may concern at American Airlines:
<name redacted>, whose direct line is <number redacted> contacted me as part of an American Airlines Business ExtrAA program about signing up for one of these accounts.
<name redacted> explained that if I filled out a form of every flight I have taken in 2009 she could give me Business ExtrAA credit. <name redacted> implied since my heavy travel that it would be worth my time as my heavy travel would earn me at least 1 free flight for my efforts. <name redacted> lied to me and now is setting up my account with a lousy few hundred points. I escalated this to her manager <name redacted> who is supposedly her boss who has not yet responded to me directly a week later. When I called today to touch base with him, I was told he is unavailable for the rest of the week. <name redacted> said he emailed me but was not able to forward me any email from him.
It has been a FRUSTERATING experience dealing with Business ExtrAA that I wouldn’t recommend to anyone.
If American Airlines lived up to their word, they would honor what the agent above had said they would do, else apologize at the bare minimum in writing for their mistakes.
I am very disappointed that American Airlines would allow such a poor quality program, Business ExtrAA to be associated with their name.
David
Here is a letter I sent to customer service.
December 8th, 2009
To whom it may concern at American Airlines:
<name redacted>, whose direct line is <number redacted> contacted me as part of an American Airlines Business ExtrAA program about signing up for one of these accounts.
<name redacted> explained that if I filled out a form of every flight I have taken in 2009 she could give me Business ExtrAA credit. <name redacted> implied since my heavy travel that it would be worth my time as my heavy travel would earn me at least 1 free flight for my efforts. <name redacted> lied to me and now is setting up my account with a lousy few hundred points. I escalated this to her manager <name redacted> who is supposedly her boss who has not yet responded to me directly a week later. When I called today to touch base with him, I was told he is unavailable for the rest of the week. <name redacted> said he emailed me but was not able to forward me any email from him.
It has been a FRUSTERATING experience dealing with Business ExtrAA that I wouldn’t recommend to anyone.
If American Airlines lived up to their word, they would honor what the agent above had said they would do, else apologize at the bare minimum in writing for their mistakes.
I am very disappointed that American Airlines would allow such a poor quality program, Business ExtrAA to be associated with their name.
David
Last edited by dstan; Dec 8, 2009 at 11:52 am Reason: names and number of non-exec AA employee removed
#57


Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: DC/VA
Programs: AA 1MM GLD, UA GLD, Marriott GLD, Hyatt GLD
Posts: 196
I had started using the B-extraa until the one time I got up with some changes to make to an itinerary. The EXP agents kept transferring me to 'meeting services' where the experience was completely unlike the EXP aangels. So I kept hanging up and calling back in hoping to finally get an agent who could help. Wasn't getting anywhere with the meeting services reps. Finally, on the last attempt called the EXP line again and explained the situation - and begged not to be transferred. Fortunately, the agent obliged and I had my itinerary fixed in < 5 mins.
Finally, a few months ago, I got an email from AA asking to participate in a survey about the B program. I did - and offered them a completely honest feedback
. In sum, if you're not EXP, use it by all means. If you are EXP and value the service that you experience from the EXP desk, don't. I choose to omit the b-extraa number when making a reservation.
#58
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: C.A.
Programs: AA Plat
Posts: 72
Business ExtrAA continues to waist my time.
Here is a letter I sent to customer service.
December 8th, 2009
To whom it may concern at American Airlines:
<name redacted>, whose direct line is <number redacted> contacted me as part of an American Airlines Business ExtrAA program about signing up for one of these accounts.
<name redacted> explained that if I filled out a form of every flight I have taken in 2009 she could give me Business ExtrAA credit. <name redacted> implied since my heavy travel that it would be worth my time as my heavy travel would earn me at least 1 free flight for my efforts. <name redacted> lied to me and now is setting up my account with a lousy few hundred points. I escalated this to her manager <name redacted> who is supposedly her boss who has not yet responded to me directly a week later. When I called today to touch base with him, I was told he is unavailable for the rest of the week. <name redacted> said he emailed me but was not able to forward me any email from him.
It has been a FRUSTERATING experience dealing with Business ExtrAA that I wouldn’t recommend to anyone.
If American Airlines lived up to their word, they would honor what the agent above had said they would do, else apologize at the bare minimum in writing for their mistakes.
I am very disappointed that American Airlines would allow such a poor quality program, Business ExtrAA to be associated with their name.
David
Here is a letter I sent to customer service.
December 8th, 2009
To whom it may concern at American Airlines:
<name redacted>, whose direct line is <number redacted> contacted me as part of an American Airlines Business ExtrAA program about signing up for one of these accounts.
<name redacted> explained that if I filled out a form of every flight I have taken in 2009 she could give me Business ExtrAA credit. <name redacted> implied since my heavy travel that it would be worth my time as my heavy travel would earn me at least 1 free flight for my efforts. <name redacted> lied to me and now is setting up my account with a lousy few hundred points. I escalated this to her manager <name redacted> who is supposedly her boss who has not yet responded to me directly a week later. When I called today to touch base with him, I was told he is unavailable for the rest of the week. <name redacted> said he emailed me but was not able to forward me any email from him.
It has been a FRUSTERATING experience dealing with Business ExtrAA that I wouldn’t recommend to anyone.
If American Airlines lived up to their word, they would honor what the agent above had said they would do, else apologize at the bare minimum in writing for their mistakes.
I am very disappointed that American Airlines would allow such a poor quality program, Business ExtrAA to be associated with their name.
David
I use it for upgrades, and gave one employee the Gold Status level....
Last edited by dstan; Dec 8, 2009 at 12:00 pm Reason: names and number of non-exec AA employees removed in quote
#59
Moderator: New York City and FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Sep 2007
Programs: AA PPro, Natl EC
Posts: 10,884
majorflyer's latest post and the responses thereto have been moved here from an older, now closed thread on the BE program.
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#60
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 34,038



