Dec 30, 2019, 1:03 pm
Last edit by: Quail
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) Miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread (2020-2022)
Nov 13, 2022, 4:11 am
#946
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YVR
Posts: 344
I am seeing 1 J seat HND-LAX but it only appears as part of KIX-HND-LAX routing with an overnight in HND. BA.com doesn't show availability for that HND-LAX seat.
Is this a fluke, or can you actually book that seat?
I have searched Tokyo-LAX and KIX-LAX and there is no J availability in all of Dec. I assume this means there is no Japan-LAX availability even if I originate elsewhere in Asia.
Might more availability appear?
Is this a fluke, or can you actually book that seat?
I have searched Tokyo-LAX and KIX-LAX and there is no J availability in all of Dec. I assume this means there is no Japan-LAX availability even if I originate elsewhere in Asia.
Might more availability appear?
If you want the seat, book the seat and see if it goes through. I suspect it will if you book the KIX-LAX that shows online. Not bookable as HND-LAX alone.
I found a date as you describe. My guess is that KIX-LAX is bookable. The date I checked shows availability on AA and AS. I suspect this is a married segment itinerary, only bookable together. BA online search does not show well married segments itineraries that span calendar days although it may be bookable on BA by calling in.
I found a date as you describe. My guess is that KIX-LAX is bookable. The date I checked shows availability on AA and AS. I suspect this is a married segment itinerary, only bookable together. BA online search does not show well married segments itineraries that span calendar days although it may be bookable on BA by calling in.
Definitely married segments, not just for KIX but a large number of Japanese cities, but it is not bookable (at least with AS).
On the booking change search engine, any option selected leads to “We're sorry, we aren't able to confirm space on these partner flights. Please try again and choose different flights, dates or cities.” Picking flights that match with ones showing on AA also doesn’t work.
Nov 13, 2022, 10:33 am
#947
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
In F, so 77W. Assigned it myself during olci as the whole cabin showed as open.
Have been playing around with this for the last few days to try and make a date change on an existing booking on a SE Asia-TYO-KIX routing.
Definitely married segments, not just for KIX but a large number of Japanese cities, but it is not bookable (at least with AS).
On the booking change search engine, any option selected leads to “We're sorry, we aren't able to confirm space on these partner flights. Please try again and choose different flights, dates or cities.” Picking flights that match with ones showing on AA also doesn’t work.
Have been playing around with this for the last few days to try and make a date change on an existing booking on a SE Asia-TYO-KIX routing.
Definitely married segments, not just for KIX but a large number of Japanese cities, but it is not bookable (at least with AS).
On the booking change search engine, any option selected leads to “We're sorry, we aren't able to confirm space on these partner flights. Please try again and choose different flights, dates or cities.” Picking flights that match with ones showing on AA also doesn’t work.
Nov 14, 2022, 11:18 am
#948
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NY
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 122
DP: booked JL J HND-BKK want to change to FUK-HND-BKK, online change fail at last step, call-in change fail, book new ticket FUK-BKK successful
Nov 14, 2022, 11:44 am
#949
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: YYZ
Posts: 86
Do you mind sharing why it failed? Did they cancel your original booking and rebook free of charge? I currently have HND-ORD booked but might need to change to HKG-HND-ORD, so wondering what the process would be.
Nov 14, 2022, 12:25 pm
#950
Join Date: Jul 2022
Programs: alaska, united, marriott, hilton
Posts: 91
I had the same issue. Had DFW-TYO stop TYO-Jakarta. Then a Cathay Return. Tried to change online to ORD-TYO stop TYO-Jakarta then SIN-TYO stop ORD. Got to the end and failed. Called they couldn't change it either.
Then i just rebooked that itinerary from scratch and it worked. Called back in and had them cancel original. Also got the partner fee refunded so i didn't have to pay that twice. Appears to be an IT issue.
Then i just rebooked that itinerary from scratch and it worked. Called back in and had them cancel original. Also got the partner fee refunded so i didn't have to pay that twice. Appears to be an IT issue.
Nov 15, 2022, 10:26 am
#951
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 322
Hope this is the right thread - wanted to ask if anyone knew of when JAL Business award space is released to Alaska Airlines?
For context, I'm looking at a ORD - HND - SIN route, which is ~65K Alaska miles for the JAL business ticket. I see availability up until October 1, 2023, but am looking to book for say October 8/9/10, 2023, all of which I only see the economy class option. In fact, October 2, 2023 onward, I only see the economy class redemption option for this route. Is this because award availability is already all booked up or that it hasn't been released yet post October 1, 2023?
For context, I'm looking at a ORD - HND - SIN route, which is ~65K Alaska miles for the JAL business ticket. I see availability up until October 1, 2023, but am looking to book for say October 8/9/10, 2023, all of which I only see the economy class option. In fact, October 2, 2023 onward, I only see the economy class redemption option for this route. Is this because award availability is already all booked up or that it hasn't been released yet post October 1, 2023?
Nov 15, 2022, 10:35 am
#952
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 48
Hope this is the right thread - wanted to ask if anyone knew of when JAL Business award space is released to Alaska Airlines?
For context, I'm looking at a ORD - HND - SIN route, which is ~65K Alaska miles for the JAL business ticket. I see availability up until October 1, 2023, but am looking to book for say October 8/9/10, 2023, all of which I only see the economy class option. In fact, October 2, 2023 onward, I only see the economy class redemption option for this route. Is this because award availability is already all booked up or that it hasn't been released yet post October 1, 2023?
For context, I'm looking at a ORD - HND - SIN route, which is ~65K Alaska miles for the JAL business ticket. I see availability up until October 1, 2023, but am looking to book for say October 8/9/10, 2023, all of which I only see the economy class option. In fact, October 2, 2023 onward, I only see the economy class redemption option for this route. Is this because award availability is already all booked up or that it hasn't been released yet post October 1, 2023?
Nov 15, 2022, 10:48 am
#953
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 1,598
Hope this is the right thread - wanted to ask if anyone knew of when JAL Business award space is released to Alaska Airlines?
For context, I'm looking at a ORD - HND - SIN route, which is ~65K Alaska miles for the JAL business ticket. I see availability up until October 1, 2023, but am looking to book for say October 8/9/10, 2023, all of which I only see the economy class option. In fact, October 2, 2023 onward, I only see the economy class redemption option for this route. Is this because award availability is already all booked up or that it hasn't been released yet post October 1, 2023?
For context, I'm looking at a ORD - HND - SIN route, which is ~65K Alaska miles for the JAL business ticket. I see availability up until October 1, 2023, but am looking to book for say October 8/9/10, 2023, all of which I only see the economy class option. In fact, October 2, 2023 onward, I only see the economy class redemption option for this route. Is this because award availability is already all booked up or that it hasn't been released yet post October 1, 2023?
Nov 15, 2022, 11:40 am
#955
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Hope this is the right thread - wanted to ask if anyone knew of when JAL Business award space is released to Alaska Airlines?
For context, I'm looking at a ORD - HND - SIN route, which is ~65K Alaska miles for the JAL business ticket. I see availability up until October 1, 2023, but am looking to book for say October 8/9/10, 2023, all of which I only see the economy class option. In fact, October 2, 2023 onward, I only see the economy class redemption option for this route. Is this because award availability is already all booked up or that it hasn't been released yet post October 1, 2023?
For context, I'm looking at a ORD - HND - SIN route, which is ~65K Alaska miles for the JAL business ticket. I see availability up until October 1, 2023, but am looking to book for say October 8/9/10, 2023, all of which I only see the economy class option. In fact, October 2, 2023 onward, I only see the economy class redemption option for this route. Is this because award availability is already all booked up or that it hasn't been released yet post October 1, 2023?
For your trip, I recommend the calendar workaround. Staring at the AS homepage click on "All search options", select one-way, use miles, Award Calendar, your origin (ORD), your destination (SIN), date a day or two from the end of the selectable dates (like 10/10 or 10/11 today when end of calendar is 10/12), and search. When you get the calendar up choose the date you want and if there is availability it should show now (whereas it does not show when doing a standard date search). Everytime you want to change a parameter on the search you must navigate back to the AS home page and click through to the "All search options" and do a calendar search from there. If you do not do this you will be in bug limbo and the results will not show JAL business class availability for the last 6-7 days of the booking window.
Nov 15, 2022, 12:25 pm
#957
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,975
Booked an LAX-KIX-BKK award on March for Dec 2022 flights that was changed to LAX-NRT-BKK due to schedule changes on JAL.
Went to check on booking and on AS site it now it says that I've been moved to "Coach(I)" Class for the flights. However JAL is still showing business class and IIRC I class on JAL is business class as well and business class seats intact.
Very strange, anyone have this happen before? Should I be worried or maybe this is good and I will get miles instead since I is a revenue class?
Went to check on booking and on AS site it now it says that I've been moved to "Coach(I)" Class for the flights. However JAL is still showing business class and IIRC I class on JAL is business class as well and business class seats intact.
Very strange, anyone have this happen before? Should I be worried or maybe this is good and I will get miles instead since I is a revenue class?
Nov 15, 2022, 1:43 pm
#958
Join Date: Sep 2020
Programs: n/a
Posts: 33
Sorry if this question had already been answered but can i book mix cabins ( website or call customer service) ?
Like I want to book J seat from BKK to Tokyo then F seat from Tokyo to JFK? is it allow?
Thanks
Like I want to book J seat from BKK to Tokyo then F seat from Tokyo to JFK? is it allow?
Thanks
Nov 15, 2022, 3:58 pm
#959
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 48
Thanks—I've been experimenting with this method and I do see how it opens up dates that otherwise show no JL flights or no flights at all. It seems a bit hit or miss, though; for example, I can see space on ORD–HND for 10/12/23 on AA, but not on AS even when trying the workaround. Could be temporary, I'll keep checking. The workaround does seem to currently do the trick for other routes, like JFK–HND.
Nov 15, 2022, 8:23 pm
#960
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 322
This was incredibly helpful @skimthetrees, as it showed me there is business class award space in the date range I'm eyeing! Will look to book in the coming 24 hours before tickets get snapped up. Thank you so much!
Edit: Apologies, forgot to click "quote reply" and now I cannot delete this post ... but it's in reference to Comment #955. Thanks again!
Edit: Apologies, forgot to click "quote reply" and now I cannot delete this post ... but it's in reference to Comment #955. Thanks again!