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Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread (2020-2022)

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Old Dec 30, 2019, 1:03 pm
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All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport

Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)

For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.

Class of Service One-way Round-trip:

U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000

U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000

Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000


International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK

USA

Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA

Canada
Vancouver - YVR

Asia

Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN


Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)


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Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread (2020-2022)

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Old Dec 9, 2022, 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by olouie
Earlier this year I would have agreed but I’ve tried simple lax-Tyo or Tyo-Sfo bookings where it shows multiple seats and as I book the first seat from my account the inventory disappears when trying to book second from another account. Even if it had been loaded up already on the second account it errors out. Doesn’t happen all the time but enough that Im pretty sure it’s AS system “bug”. These aren’t super in demand flights as they’ve been open for a while too so I doubt someone else just happened to book the minute after I did randomly. Then if I wait a few days to a week it pops back up and I can book on AS, or just book using other airline miles.

But yes also agree that married segment is a big issue as well.
Weird! Is this at end of schedule? Does the availability zero on partner sites too or just on AS when you book the one seat?
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Old Dec 9, 2022, 9:54 am
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My AS FF# was not attached to the my JL award booking automatically. All the window seats are currently blocked for me as OWE.
And the JAL website only allows me to add JL FF#.
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Old Dec 9, 2022, 11:06 am
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Originally Posted by skimthetrees
Weird! Is this at end of schedule? Does the availability zero on partner sites too or just on AS when you book the one seat?
Not all have been at end of schedule. Availability only zeros on AS site. When that happened I just booked on AA or waited and until it comes back on AS. Doesn’t happen all the time either as I’ve been able to book other trips such as LAX-TYO-BKK same way without it happening. Not sure if it’s due to number of seats left or what. Hopefully just resolves on its own soon.
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Old Dec 9, 2022, 7:19 pm
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Originally Posted by olouie
Then if I wait a few days to a week it pops back up and I can book on AS, or just book using other airline miles.

But yes also agree that married segment is a big issue as well.
I did think about married segments but I'm connecting to a TAPC JL sector as well. But good to know it would show up again in the future, makes me feel hopeful haha

Originally Posted by skimthetrees
Weird! Is this at end of schedule? Does the availability zero on partner sites too or just on AS when you book the one seat?
it would zero out simultaneously on AA/AS/BA. Very strange it would just drop from 7 to 0
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Old Dec 9, 2022, 10:01 pm
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Originally Posted by w000t
it would zero out simultaneously on AA/AS/BA. Very strange it would just drop from 7 to 0
What happens if you search segment by segment?
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Old Dec 10, 2022, 5:02 pm
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The availability on Alaska's site for JAL flights seems extra messed up in January -- I saw lots of LAS-SFO-HND-CTS 70k under 'partner business' with no main and no first class, but the flight actually being in first on the SFO-HND flight 1, but errors when you actually book it.
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Old Dec 10, 2022, 8:53 pm
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Originally Posted by rdlmitedu
The availability on Alaska's site for JAL flights seems extra messed up in January -- I saw lots of LAS-SFO-HND-CTS 70k under 'partner business' with no main and no first class, but the flight actually being in first on the SFO-HND flight 1, but errors when you actually book it.
Smells like a bug to me. Maybe related to the changes AS is making to the reservation system this month?
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Old Dec 11, 2022, 1:39 am
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Just figure I should add my observations - seeing a lot of HND-US gateway-Other US cities availability in F, but the HND-Gateway seat when searched alone cannot be found. It also doesn't go through when you try ticket it.
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Old Dec 11, 2022, 1:44 am
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How many free bags am I entitled? I am OWE on mixed class ticket. First leg SGN-HND on economy and first class on HND-LAX-SEA remaining legs?
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Old Dec 11, 2022, 7:51 am
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Never mind. The answer is 4. Just did it. But more pressing is my JAL flight has 6 business class seats open but agent refuses to upgrade my ticket which is on 1st class award ticket for the only non 1st class leg. States that it is AS responsibility. AS says it's JAL who can do so. Any advice? I have 2.5 hours until departure. Thanks for any info.
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Old Dec 11, 2022, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by Kamiakdad
Never mind. The answer is 4. Just did it. But more pressing is my JAL flight has 6 business class seats open but agent refuses to upgrade my ticket which is on 1st class award ticket for the only non 1st class leg. States that it is AS responsibility. AS says it's JAL who can do so. Any advice? I have 2.5 hours until departure. Thanks for any info.
Is there business award space for the segment open? If so you should call Alaska and have them reticket (hopefully checking in doesn’t hijack that).
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Old Dec 11, 2022, 8:45 am
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Originally Posted by olouie
Is there business award space for the segment open? If so you should call Alaska and have them reticket (hopefully checking in doesn’t hijack that).
Yes, if the 6 seats are revenue then that doesn't mean available for award. It would be strange to see 6 award seats open (especially now with almost no award seats being released )
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Old Dec 11, 2022, 8:48 am
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JAL phantom space and other randomness (F fares on planes without F). Deval is on the horizon
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Old Dec 11, 2022, 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by CDKing
JAL phantom space and other randomness (F fares on planes without F). Deval is on the horizon
I am hoping it will not be a deval but an incval. AS is still showing the same redemption rates for a couple of JAL only itins I checked (no deval). They have said they are working on combining award charts so my hope is that they are implementing that and threw a few bugs in for free. What I hope comes out is keeping single partner award rates the same but having an increased rate if you want to mix partners on an award. Supposedly late December is their target date so we should know soon.

For JAL, at least I hope that is the way it plays out. The CX award chart has been ripe for devaluation for years so I would not be surprised to see that go.
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Old Dec 11, 2022, 12:31 pm
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Phantom space? Deval

Introduction of anytime awards (without changing saver awards)? Deval

Adding new partners without changing old partners rates? Believe or not, deval
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