Dec 30, 2019, 1:03 pm
Last edit by: Quail
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) Miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread (2020-2022)
Dec 11, 2022, 12:36 pm
#1051
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Dec 11, 2022, 9:51 pm
#1052
Join Date: Feb 2022
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Sad but true, I did not get upgraded and those 6 seats flew empty. But on bright side on my way to 1st class in 2 hours.
)
Dec 11, 2022, 11:03 pm
#1053
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Dec 12, 2022, 3:40 am
#1054
Join Date: Feb 2022
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Dec 12, 2022, 7:28 am
#1055
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Never mind. The answer is 4. Just did it. But more pressing is my JAL flight has 6 business class seats open but agent refuses to upgrade my ticket which is on 1st class award ticket for the only non 1st class leg. States that it is AS responsibility. AS says it's JAL who can do so. Any advice? I have 2.5 hours until departure. Thanks for any info.
TLDR: Even though the miles cost for you to book the ticket may be the same for a different class of service the reimbursement rate that JAL receives from AS is dependent on what class of service is on the issued ticket for each leg.
Dec 12, 2022, 8:41 am
#1056
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Posts: 749
Is NRT and HND considered CO-Terminals? i.e. You can Fly into one and fly out of another as a single award.
Example
JFK-HND(x) // NRT-SIN = 65K (J award)
Example
JFK-HND(x) // NRT-SIN = 65K (J award)
Dec 12, 2022, 9:23 am
#1057
Join Date: Dec 2022
Posts: 6
Been following the posts from the last few months. Thank you all for the tips and tricks.
My ultimate goal is to book 2 F tickets HND-ORD or JFK for mid Nov 2023. I have 151k AS miles so the reverse booking trip doesn't really work for me and finding 2 F tickets is difficult. Also, I tried the "all search options" trick from the main menu, but in the last week it's not been working. What's the best course of action now?
Side question: is it possible to add another segment later on? like a BKK-HND leg for 5k?
My ultimate goal is to book 2 F tickets HND-ORD or JFK for mid Nov 2023. I have 151k AS miles so the reverse booking trip doesn't really work for me and finding 2 F tickets is difficult. Also, I tried the "all search options" trick from the main menu, but in the last week it's not been working. What's the best course of action now?
Side question: is it possible to add another segment later on? like a BKK-HND leg for 5k?
Dec 12, 2022, 9:24 am
#1058
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 122
Quick datapoint: found two J seats on JAL from JFK > HND this morning via AA's search, which weren't appearing on AS. I called AS to see if they could book them over the phone and they said they didn't see any inventory. I hung up and then a few minutes later received a call from the same CSR, telling me that she did a little poking around and was able to find the seats I found on AA. She took my billing info and booked the seats for me. Just wanted to offer this up as an FYI for anyone who encounters a similar problem!
Dec 12, 2022, 12:03 pm
#1059
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Yes. I don't believe AS shows these airport land transfers anymore when searching for a simple transit since the pandemic but you can definitely book this with a stopover using multi-city search.
Dec 12, 2022, 12:07 pm
#1060
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Been following the posts from the last few months. Thank you all for the tips and tricks.
My ultimate goal is to book 2 F tickets HND-ORD or JFK for mid Nov 2023. I have 151k AS miles so the reverse booking trip doesn't really work for me and finding 2 F tickets is difficult. Also, I tried the "all search options" trick from the main menu, but in the last week it's not been working. What's the best course of action now?
Side question: is it possible to add another segment later on? like a BKK-HND leg for 5k?
My ultimate goal is to book 2 F tickets HND-ORD or JFK for mid Nov 2023. I have 151k AS miles so the reverse booking trip doesn't really work for me and finding 2 F tickets is difficult. Also, I tried the "all search options" trick from the main menu, but in the last week it's not been working. What's the best course of action now?
Side question: is it possible to add another segment later on? like a BKK-HND leg for 5k?
Side question: Yes you can as of today. Who knows what will happen in the future?
Dec 12, 2022, 4:36 pm
#1061
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 24
Update: I called Alaska CS. They told me that the AS FF# was attached to the JL award booking and they also saw all the window seats are blocked and couldn't do anything.
Dec 12, 2022, 6:29 pm
#1062
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 118
You will not find 2F tickets from the US at least until very close in, like 14 days out. JL only releases 1F at a time now until closer in. You can either book 1F and 1J now and hope to switch later if you find 1F availability, or you could book 2J now and hope to find 2F later.
Side question: Yes you can as of today. Who knows what will happen in the future?
Side question: Yes you can as of today. Who knows what will happen in the future?
Dec 12, 2022, 6:56 pm
#1063
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Yup, I just realized that. I was wondering how JL actually released these F seats to partner. Say they have 8 seats in total. I'm sure they will save at least half for their own FF programme. How are they distributing the remainder to their many partners? BTW, thank you for your tips earlier last month. Was able to secure my dream itinerary. On a side note, the agent at the partner desk told me that they are unable to see JL711 availability in business on Nov 3, but i'm able to see it online and even till the last step, it allowed me to book. Was looking to change my HND flight to NRT since it depart later in the day.
Dec 12, 2022, 6:57 pm
#1064
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Yup, I just realized that. I was wondering how JL actually released these F seats to partner. Say they have 8 seats in total. I'm sure they will save at least half for their own FF programme. How are they distributing the remainder to their many partners? BTW, thank you for your tips earlier last month. Was able to secure my dream itinerary. On a side note, the agent at the partner desk told me that they are unable to see JL711 availability in business on Nov 3, but i'm able to see it online and even till the last step, it allowed me to book. Was looking to change my HND flight to NRT since it depart later in the day.
(Exceptions apply, e.g. AS has access to extra inventory for SQ and QR)
Dec 16, 2022, 1:38 pm
#1065
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 48
Any idea why no J seats are available on a random Monday in November 2023 from HND to SGN? Literally every day in October is available, and November is shaping up to look the same way—except for the day I need to travel! I haven't followed the pattern of this route for long enough to know whether dates randomly become unavailable and then available again.