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Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread (2020-2022)

Old Dec 30, 2019, 1:03 pm
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Wiki for using AS (Alaska) Miles on JL (Japan Airlines)

All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport

Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)

For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.

Class of Service One-way Round-trip:

U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000

U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000

Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000


International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK

USA

Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA

Canada
Vancouver - YVR

Asia

Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN


Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)


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Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread (2020-2022)

Old Oct 1, 2022, 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by Sandeep1
ORD-HND J or F seems rather difficult to come by until the late summer 2023. Am I missing something here?
3 years worth of people wanting to visit and pent up demand finally being released. And a lot of airlines probably haven't loaded additional flights back into the schedule yet either - and the ones they're loading back in, they'll probably gouge cash interest first, too.
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Old Oct 1, 2022, 7:56 am
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If you were looking at flying to Japan in 2023 on points you should have booked this summer. They weren’t going to be locked forever.
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Old Oct 1, 2022, 9:48 am
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Business Class Availability

Trying to book business class flight from YVR-NRT in November

On the AS web site, I see availability for my dates in Main (Economy) Class for 35K

But First Class shows as N/A for pretty much all dates.

I know that YVR-NRT doesn't have a first class, but how would I check the business class award availability (or would it show up under first class if available).

Also, does JAL typically release award availability 2 weeks out for business class similar to what they do for first class.

Thanks in advance for your help.
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Old Oct 1, 2022, 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by OfficeGlenn
Trying to book business class flight from YVR-NRT in November

On the AS web site, I see availability for my dates in Main (Economy) Class for 35K

But First Class shows as N/A for pretty much all dates.

I know that YVR-NRT doesn't have a first class, but how would I check the business class award availability (or would it show up under first class if available).

Also, does JAL typically release award availability 2 weeks out for business class similar to what they do for first class.

Thanks in advance for your help.
See the posts right above yours. It's PEAK demand for Japan now. If J doesn't show up, it's just not available, which isn't a surprise at all. I would not expect JAL or any other japanese airline to release more award seats than what's currently available until the end of the year. Maybe even past Sakura.
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Old Oct 2, 2022, 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by najama2
Japan reopening.
So lots of inventory available when Japan was closed, no inventory when it's open. Thanks JAL
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Old Oct 2, 2022, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Sandeep1
So lots of inventory available when Japan was closed, no inventory when it's open. Thanks JAL
There was PLEEEENTY of time to book the past few months when it was clear they were gearing towards a reopen at minimum in 2023. Why would they give away seats when demand to come to Japan is going to be sky high?
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Old Oct 2, 2022, 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Sandeep1
So lots of inventory available when Japan was closed, no inventory when it's open. Thanks JAL
Supply & Demand. I made a speculative booking for April a few months ago.
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Old Oct 2, 2022, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by TravelingZoomer
There was PLEEEENTY of time to book the past few months when it was clear they were gearing towards a reopen at minimum in 2023. Why would they give away seats when demand to come to Japan is going to be sky high?
Argument doesn't hold water. They are giving away Y seats, tons of them. They just aren't giving away J/F seats.

And now with the impending Alaska deval in December, this is not good at all.
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Old Oct 2, 2022, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
Supply & Demand. I made a speculative booking for April a few months ago.
A few months ago I booked 5 round trip with stopovers in Osaka and in the US coming back in J for May
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Old Oct 2, 2022, 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by TravelingZoomer
A few months ago I booked 5 round trip with stopovers in Osaka and in the US coming back in J for May
That's great. I hadn't decided my travel plans yet for 2023 until recently. Not to mention the impending AS deval coming later this year, going to need to burn my points asap.
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Old Oct 2, 2022, 2:30 pm
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I can still see some US-TYO J awards, you just have to be veeeeeery flexible with dates.
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Old Oct 2, 2022, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Smiley90
I can still see some US-TYO J awards, you just have to be veeeeeery flexible with dates.
I'll keep looking.. was looking for ORD-TYO between Feb and early May and didn't see anything. Needs to be ORD though, else I'll just fly on SQ out of LAX or SFO.
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Old Oct 2, 2022, 3:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Sandeep1
I'll keep looking.. was looking for ORD-TYO between Feb and early May and didn't see anything. Needs to be ORD though, else I'll just fly on SQ out of LAX or SFO.
If miles aren't a concern, then sure, that's an alternative. JAL is obviously cheaper, depends on how you value that.
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Old Oct 2, 2022, 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Sandeep1
I'll keep looking.. was looking for ORD-TYO between Feb and early May and didn't see anything. Needs to be ORD though, else I'll just fly on SQ out of LAX or SFO.
So you’re limiting yourself to one city, during Sakura season, and relatively close even during normal times.

It’s doubtful you’d find space in a non pandemic year. If you are indeed worrying about a devalue spend the miles on SQ. Otherwise, book Y and hope space opens T-14
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Old Oct 2, 2022, 5:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Sandeep1
So lots of inventory available when Japan was closed, no inventory when it's open. Thanks JAL
That's sort of how supply and demand works...
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