Dec 30, 2019, 1:03 pm
Last edit by: Quail
Wiki for using AS (Alaska) Miles on JL (Japan Airlines)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
All awards for domestic Japan will default to Economy (including international F or J award with domestic segments).
However, these can often be upgraded at reasonable cost at the ticket counter in the Japan connecting airport
Award Chart
If not listed it's not available - EXCEPTION: Hawaii-Asia awards are bookable, not yet on the chart, at the same prices as Continental U.S.-Asia
(As of March 2017, Premium Economy is no longer available)
(As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards)
For 2021:
F awards are available again to book directly on AS website (no need to book J then try to change segment) as of June 12, 2021.
Class of Service One-way Round-trip:
U.S./Canada to Asia
Coach 35,000 70,000
Premium 40,000 80,000
Business 60,000 120,000
First 70,000 140,000
U.S./Canada to Southeast Asia
Coach 40,000 80,000
Premium 45,000 90,000
Business 65,000 130,000
First 75,000 150,000
Intra Asia
Coach 15,000 30,000
Premium 17,500 35,000
Business 25,000 50,000
First 30,000 60,000
International gateways
All AS valid destinations from Tokyo (HND/NRT), Osaka (KIX) or Nagoya (NGO).
PUS, GMP, ICN, DLC, PVG, SHA, PEK, TSA, TPE, KHH, CAN, HKG, MNL, HAN, SGN, BKK, SIN, KUL, CGK, DEL, HNL, KOA, YVR, SFO, SEA, LAX, SAN, ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK
USA
Boston - BOS
Chicago - ORD
Dallas - DFW
Honolulu - HNL
Kona -KOA
Los Angeles - LAX
New York - JFK
San Diego - SAN
San Francisco - SFO
Seattle - SEA
Canada
Vancouver - YVR
Asia
Delhi - DEL
Tokyo - HND & NRT
Osaka - KIX
Nagoya - NGO
Busan - PUS
Seoul - Gimpo GMP
Seoul - Incheon ICN
Southeast Asia (or listed as SE based on how awards are pricing)
Bangkok - BKK
Beijing - PEK
Dalian - DLC
Guangzhou - CAN
Hanoi - HAN
Ho Chi Minh City - SGN
Hong Kong - HKG
Jakarta - CGK
Kaohsiung - KHH
Kuala Lumpur - KUL
Manila - MNL
Shanghai - Hongqiao - SHA
Shanghai - Pudong - PVG
Singapore - SIN
Taipei - TPE
Taipei - Songshan - TSA
Tianjin - TSN (only from Nagoya, not very useful....)
Definitive "Booking Japan Airlines (JL) Using AS Miles" Thread (2020-2022)
Sep 26, 2022 | 7:36 am
#766
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 237
Currently I have booked BKK-HND-ORD in J and plan to upgrade the HND-ORD segment to F once space opens up T-14. Will I be able to do this online via the change booking tool or I need to call in?
Sep 26, 2022 | 11:03 am
#767
Join Date: Oct 2020
Programs: AS MVPG 100K
Posts: 162
In the last month or so, the online tool hasn't been able to show the F seats when Jal release them at T-14. I had to call in both time.
Sep 26, 2022 | 2:10 pm
#768
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: SFO
Programs: AS 75k, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 562
New to JAL award bookings - does this mean if you get an award in economy using AS miles you can call the partner desk at T-14 to see if you can change to an F award?
Sep 26, 2022 | 2:30 pm
#769
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,444
If the main online search (not change tool search, since folks say that doesn't work for F) shows F award availability then you can switch to it.
Sep 26, 2022 | 4:10 pm
#770
Join Date: Oct 2020
Programs: AS MVPG 100K
Posts: 162
If you already book a Y seat, the online "Change Reservation " tool should show F seats. However, I have never tried it since all of my bookings was from J to F
Sep 26, 2022 | 10:09 pm
#771
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: SFO
Programs: AS 75k, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 562
Thanks! I'm really hoping J or F space open up closer to the dates I'm flying.
Sep 27, 2022 | 6:05 pm
#772
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,690
I've searched over a period of months, twice, and both times F availability came and went, frequently.
So keep watching the skys.
Managed to change a SIN-HND-JFK Y-F booking to J-F, the first leg a day earlier, over the phone. No problems.
Thanks again to all the great advisers on the thread.
cheers
asdf
So keep watching the skys.
Managed to change a SIN-HND-JFK Y-F booking to J-F, the first leg a day earlier, over the phone. No problems.
Thanks again to all the great advisers on the thread.
cheers
asdf
Sep 28, 2022 | 5:16 am
#773
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 237
I've searched over a period of months, twice, and both times F availability came and went, frequently.
So keep watching the skys.
Managed to change a SIN-HND-JFK Y-F booking to J-F, the first leg a day earlier, over the phone. No problems.
Thanks again to all the great advisers on the thread.
cheers
asdf
So keep watching the skys.
Managed to change a SIN-HND-JFK Y-F booking to J-F, the first leg a day earlier, over the phone. No problems.
Thanks again to all the great advisers on the thread.
cheers
asdf
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Sep 28, 2022 | 1:00 pm
#774
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 34
I'm flying from NRT to BKK in J. Then I'm returning from SIN to GMP (Seoul) via HND in mix of Biz/Econ. All three flights are on JAL metal.
I called Alaska and asked to create stopover itinerary: NRT-BKK-stopover-SIN-GMP.
Agent said that the stopover for JAL can only be in Japan.
Is it correct?
I called Alaska and asked to create stopover itinerary: NRT-BKK-stopover-SIN-GMP.
Agent said that the stopover for JAL can only be in Japan.
Is it correct?
Sep 28, 2022 | 1:16 pm
#775
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,594
I'm flying from NRT to BKK in J. Then I'm returning from SIN to GMP (Seoul) via HND in mix of Biz/Econ. All three flights are on JAL metal.
I called Alaska and asked to create stopover itinerary: NRT-BKK-stopover-SIN-GMP.
Agent said that the stopover for JAL can only be in Japan.
Is it correct?
I called Alaska and asked to create stopover itinerary: NRT-BKK-stopover-SIN-GMP.
Agent said that the stopover for JAL can only be in Japan.
Is it correct?
That itinerary should be 100% bookable as a round trip award, since it's just two one way trips, NRT-BKK and SIN-HND-GMP. No stopover required because JAL doesn't fly BKK-SIN anyway.
Also, please read the wiki at the top of the page:
As of October 2019, stopovers are no longer allowed on intra Asia awards
Last edited by eponymous_coward; Sep 28, 2022 at 1:26 pm
Sep 28, 2022 | 2:05 pm
#776
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: SFO
Programs: AS 75k, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 562
Sep 28, 2022 | 3:02 pm
#777
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 34
That's not a stopover to start with, that's a double open jaw on a round trip. If you've managed to book NRT-BKK//SIN-HND-GMP as a one-way award I wouldn't exactly go calling attention to it by calling AS. They might realize they screwed up and charge you the true round trip price.
That itinerary should be 100% bookable as a round trip award, since it's just two one way trips, NRT-BKK and SIN-HND-GMP. No stopover required because JAL doesn't fly BKK-SIN anyway.
Also, please read the wiki at the top of the page:
That itinerary should be 100% bookable as a round trip award, since it's just two one way trips, NRT-BKK and SIN-HND-GMP. No stopover required because JAL doesn't fly BKK-SIN anyway.
Also, please read the wiki at the top of the page:
One more question:
- the SIN-GMP reservation has 11hrs layover in HND (married segments). If necessary, can I convert that layover into stopover and move the flight to GMP three months later from the original flight date?
Sep 28, 2022 | 3:54 pm
#778
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: British Columbia
Programs: AS MVPG100K, Marriott Marriott Titanium Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 7,304
Thank you for the very helpful explanation. These are two separate one way reservations. I just thought it is possible to combine them into one one-way trip (and save on mileage). Apparently I didn't know the basics of stopovers, open-jaws, etc
One more question:
- the SIN-GMP reservation has 11hrs layover in HND (married segments). If necessary, can I convert that layover into stopover and move the flight to GMP three months later from the original flight date?
One more question:
- the SIN-GMP reservation has 11hrs layover in HND (married segments). If necessary, can I convert that layover into stopover and move the flight to GMP three months later from the original flight date?
James
Sep 29, 2022 | 12:26 am
#779
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 6
I have an interesting data point.
I was attempting to book HAN --> NRT in J followed by an HND --> ORD flight in F a few days later. Both had award availability. Due to the bug that has been described several times in this thread, I was not able to book them together. I took a leap of faith and went the change tool route. I booked the HND --> ORD flight in F sucessfully and then opened up the change tool to try and add HAN -> NRT. Cool story....under the multiple city options, for some reason HAN doesn't show up as valid airport (no airports in Vietnam do). I tested several others and they all appeared to be there (BKK, MNL, DPS, etc). As the system couldn't find HAN, it wouldn't let me proceed any further and gave me an error message about an invalid airport.
I was playing around with some other options and decided to search for MNL --> NRT flights. Of course, those all showed up just fine. I noticed on the following page that "Manila" was encoded into the URL at the top. I said what the heck and I tried modifying some of the URL parameters, specifically, the airport code, country name, and airport name. I hit enter thinking it would never work and BOOOOOM! The flight to from HAN --> NRT showed right up on the next page with the J and I was able to book successfully and add that segment to my flight.
I hope this helps others that may be using the change tool with Vietnam airports (or any other airports that aren't showing properly in the city selection tool).
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I was attempting to book HAN --> NRT in J followed by an HND --> ORD flight in F a few days later. Both had award availability. Due to the bug that has been described several times in this thread, I was not able to book them together. I took a leap of faith and went the change tool route. I booked the HND --> ORD flight in F sucessfully and then opened up the change tool to try and add HAN -> NRT. Cool story....under the multiple city options, for some reason HAN doesn't show up as valid airport (no airports in Vietnam do). I tested several others and they all appeared to be there (BKK, MNL, DPS, etc). As the system couldn't find HAN, it wouldn't let me proceed any further and gave me an error message about an invalid airport.
I was playing around with some other options and decided to search for MNL --> NRT flights. Of course, those all showed up just fine. I noticed on the following page that "Manila" was encoded into the URL at the top. I said what the heck and I tried modifying some of the URL parameters, specifically, the airport code, country name, and airport name. I hit enter thinking it would never work and BOOOOOM! The flight to from HAN --> NRT showed right up on the next page with the J and I was able to book successfully and add that segment to my flight.
I hope this helps others that may be using the change tool with Vietnam airports (or any other airports that aren't showing properly in the city selection tool).
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Sep 29, 2022 | 4:17 am
#780
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: NZ
Posts: 1,633
I have an interesting data point.
I was attempting to book HAN --> NRT in J followed by an HND --> ORD flight in F a few days later. Both had award availability. Due to the bug that has been described several times in this thread, I was not able to book them together. I took a leap of faith and went the change tool route. I booked the HND --> ORD flight in F sucessfully and then opened up the change tool to try and add HAN -> NRT. Cool story....under the multiple city options, for some reason HAN doesn't show up as valid airport (no airports in Vietnam do). I tested several others and they all appeared to be there (BKK, MNL, DPS, etc). As the system couldn't find HAN, it wouldn't let me proceed any further and gave me an error message about an invalid airport.
I was playing around with some other options and decided to search for MNL --> NRT flights. Of course, those all showed up just fine. I noticed on the following page that "Manila" was encoded into the URL at the top. I said what the heck and I tried modifying some of the URL parameters, specifically, the airport code, country name, and airport name. I hit enter thinking it would never work and BOOOOOM! The flight to from HAN --> NRT showed right up on the next page with the J and I was able to book successfully and add that segment to my flight.
I hope this helps others that may be using the change tool with Vietnam airports (or any other airports that aren't showing properly in the city selection tool).
.
I was attempting to book HAN --> NRT in J followed by an HND --> ORD flight in F a few days later. Both had award availability. Due to the bug that has been described several times in this thread, I was not able to book them together. I took a leap of faith and went the change tool route. I booked the HND --> ORD flight in F sucessfully and then opened up the change tool to try and add HAN -> NRT. Cool story....under the multiple city options, for some reason HAN doesn't show up as valid airport (no airports in Vietnam do). I tested several others and they all appeared to be there (BKK, MNL, DPS, etc). As the system couldn't find HAN, it wouldn't let me proceed any further and gave me an error message about an invalid airport.
I was playing around with some other options and decided to search for MNL --> NRT flights. Of course, those all showed up just fine. I noticed on the following page that "Manila" was encoded into the URL at the top. I said what the heck and I tried modifying some of the URL parameters, specifically, the airport code, country name, and airport name. I hit enter thinking it would never work and BOOOOOM! The flight to from HAN --> NRT showed right up on the next page with the J and I was able to book successfully and add that segment to my flight.
I hope this helps others that may be using the change tool with Vietnam airports (or any other airports that aren't showing properly in the city selection tool).
.