Feb 18, 2017, 12:46 am
Last edit by: tattikat2
Date, Location, Day of week, Time of Day and method of access for denial.
Please include if you are actually flying Alaska that day, or some other airline, so we can see if the BR is giving preference to AS flyers
3/10/17 SEA D AL 4pm Friday - sign out (was flying Alaska)
3/12/17 SEA N & A AL 6pm Sunday PP denied
2/18/17 PDX AL 6:00am Saturday (flying AS) - PP denied (sign out)
3/21/17 SEA D AL 9am Tuesday - sign out
3/21/17 SEA N AL 9:45am Tuesday - sign out
3/24/17 SEA D AL 1:15pm Friday - sign out (was flying Alaska)
3/25/17 SEA D AL 1:15pm Saturday - sign out
3/25/17 SEA D AL 9:00pm Saturday - sign out
3/26/17 PDX C AL 9:15pm Sunday - Sign out (Was flying AS)
4/2/17 SEA D AL 4:00pm Monday - sign out
4/3/17 SEA D AL 10:30a Monday - sign out - PP requested-denied - was allowed with AL lounge pass - 90% occupied
4/10/17 SEA D 6:45 AM - sign out
4/12/17 SEA D 8:20 PM - sign out
4/14/17 SEA D 10:00 AM - sign out
4/16/17 SEA N 11:00am - sign out, was even upgraded to F on AS and MVP75K, no dice. It was a busy Easter Sunday
4/17/17 PDX 5:35am - no sign, admitted with a smile
4/22/17 PDX 6:35am - no sign, admitted
4/22/17 SEA D 8:15am - no sign, went to Centurion Lounge instead
4/23/17 SEA D and N 4:30pm - sign out. N lounge half empty.
4/26/17 LAX 11:30am - no sign
4/26/17 SEA D no sign, went to The Club
4/27/17 SEA D 10:40 AM - sign out
4/27/17 SEA N 10:50 AM - sign put out just as I entered, admitted with PP as the "last one"
4/27/17 SEA N 4pm - no sign, admitted with PP and a Delta bp
4/30/17 SEA D no sign, admitted
5/1/17 PDX 6:30 am - no sign, admitted, maybe 50% full
5/8/17 SEA D 11:00 am - new sign saying no PP guests, admitted as a PP cardholder.
5/15/17 SEA D 12:30pm sign out no PP
5/18/17 SEA N 7pm Thursday - no sign, admitted (PP, flying AS)
5/18/17 ANC 11:30pm Thursday - no sign, denied, but admitted 45 minutes later (PP, flying AS)
5/19/17 ANC 3pm Friday - no sign, admitted (PP, flying AS)
5/23/17 PDX C 4pm Tue - admitted (PP, flying WN).
5/27/17 PDX 7:50am no sign
6/28/17 LAX 12:30pm/3:30pm- no sign, admitted
9/25/17 PDX 2:00 - sign out, admitted without comment (PP, flying AA)
11/8/17 SEA C 09:00 AM - admitted (PP, flying AS). Only a few seats available, but at least a few seats remained available the whole time I was there
11/16/17 LAX 09:00 AM- sign out, no PP
02/0319 LAX 5pm Sunday-sign out no PP (flying AS)
Please include if you are actually flying Alaska that day, or some other airline, so we can see if the BR is giving preference to AS flyers
3/10/17 SEA D AL 4pm Friday - sign out (was flying Alaska)
3/12/17 SEA N & A AL 6pm Sunday PP denied
2/18/17 PDX AL 6:00am Saturday (flying AS) - PP denied (sign out)
3/21/17 SEA D AL 9am Tuesday - sign out
3/21/17 SEA N AL 9:45am Tuesday - sign out
3/24/17 SEA D AL 1:15pm Friday - sign out (was flying Alaska)
3/25/17 SEA D AL 1:15pm Saturday - sign out
3/25/17 SEA D AL 9:00pm Saturday - sign out
3/26/17 PDX C AL 9:15pm Sunday - Sign out (Was flying AS)
4/2/17 SEA D AL 4:00pm Monday - sign out
4/3/17 SEA D AL 10:30a Monday - sign out - PP requested-denied - was allowed with AL lounge pass - 90% occupied
4/10/17 SEA D 6:45 AM - sign out
4/12/17 SEA D 8:20 PM - sign out
4/14/17 SEA D 10:00 AM - sign out
4/16/17 SEA N 11:00am - sign out, was even upgraded to F on AS and MVP75K, no dice. It was a busy Easter Sunday
4/17/17 PDX 5:35am - no sign, admitted with a smile
4/22/17 PDX 6:35am - no sign, admitted
4/22/17 SEA D 8:15am - no sign, went to Centurion Lounge instead
4/23/17 SEA D and N 4:30pm - sign out. N lounge half empty.
4/26/17 LAX 11:30am - no sign
4/26/17 SEA D no sign, went to The Club
4/27/17 SEA D 10:40 AM - sign out
4/27/17 SEA N 10:50 AM - sign put out just as I entered, admitted with PP as the "last one"
4/27/17 SEA N 4pm - no sign, admitted with PP and a Delta bp
4/30/17 SEA D no sign, admitted
5/1/17 PDX 6:30 am - no sign, admitted, maybe 50% full
5/8/17 SEA D 11:00 am - new sign saying no PP guests, admitted as a PP cardholder.
5/15/17 SEA D 12:30pm sign out no PP
5/18/17 SEA N 7pm Thursday - no sign, admitted (PP, flying AS)
5/18/17 ANC 11:30pm Thursday - no sign, denied, but admitted 45 minutes later (PP, flying AS)
5/19/17 ANC 3pm Friday - no sign, admitted (PP, flying AS)
5/23/17 PDX C 4pm Tue - admitted (PP, flying WN).
5/27/17 PDX 7:50am no sign
6/28/17 LAX 12:30pm/3:30pm- no sign, admitted
9/25/17 PDX 2:00 - sign out, admitted without comment (PP, flying AA)
11/8/17 SEA C 09:00 AM - admitted (PP, flying AS). Only a few seats available, but at least a few seats remained available the whole time I was there
11/16/17 LAX 09:00 AM- sign out, no PP
02/0319 LAX 5pm Sunday-sign out no PP (flying AS)
Priority Pass and denied entry at the Alaska Lounge b/c of space - 2018 and Earlier
Apr 23, 2017, 4:42 pm
#691
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Priority Pass app now lists opening hours for The Club at SEA in Concourse A as 7 am to midnight daily as of April 25.
South satellite location has hours of 6 am to 5:30 pm.
South satellite location has hours of 6 am to 5:30 pm.
Apr 23, 2017, 5:52 pm
#692
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Sunday, April 23, 4:30pm, D and N lounges: sign out.
N lounge was half empty. Desk person said they were hoping a group would leave soon so they could take the sign down.
Neil
N lounge was half empty. Desk person said they were hoping a group would leave soon so they could take the sign down.
Neil
Apr 24, 2017, 12:55 pm
#693
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PDX Lounge: Sunday, 4/23, 6 PM, about 75% full.
No sign out, graciously admitted entry for myself and 2 sons (with box of Voodoo donuts). Kept my head low and thoroughly enjoyed a couple of Alaska Ambers before our flight. Yeah, it's a small place with basic offerings but it's somehow still a bit of a respite for me and I appreciate the Pacific NW beers they have. And the Longboard Lager.
Be back thru PDX in a couple of weeks: fingers are crossed but doubt lightning will strike twice for me.
No sign out, graciously admitted entry for myself and 2 sons (with box of Voodoo donuts). Kept my head low and thoroughly enjoyed a couple of Alaska Ambers before our flight. Yeah, it's a small place with basic offerings but it's somehow still a bit of a respite for me and I appreciate the Pacific NW beers they have. And the Longboard Lager.
Be back thru PDX in a couple of weeks: fingers are crossed but doubt lightning will strike twice for me.
Apr 24, 2017, 2:13 pm
#694
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PDX Lounge: Sunday, 4/23, 6 PM, about 75% full.
No sign out, graciously admitted entry for myself and 2 sons (with box of Voodoo donuts). Kept my head low and thoroughly enjoyed a couple of Alaska Ambers before our flight. Yeah, it's a small place with basic offerings but it's somehow still a bit of a respite for me and I appreciate the Pacific NW beers they have. And the Longboard Lager.
Be back thru PDX in a couple of weeks: fingers are crossed but doubt lightning will strike twice for me.
No sign out, graciously admitted entry for myself and 2 sons (with box of Voodoo donuts). Kept my head low and thoroughly enjoyed a couple of Alaska Ambers before our flight. Yeah, it's a small place with basic offerings but it's somehow still a bit of a respite for me and I appreciate the Pacific NW beers they have. And the Longboard Lager.
Be back thru PDX in a couple of weeks: fingers are crossed but doubt lightning will strike twice for me.
Apr 24, 2017, 2:13 pm
#695
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Apr 24, 2017, 2:35 pm
#697
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According to the AS Twitter team, for now, it's just PDX. My guess is that it will eventually go system wide because if you don't follow this whole saga on travel blogs like FT, it's going to be very confusing (read: frustrating) for someone who gets denied entry at an AL in PDX, but regularly visits the other lounges. If this ends up being implemented one lounge at a time, my guess after PDX is that the SEA lounges will shut down to PP, then LAX, and finally ANC.
Apr 24, 2017, 4:07 pm
#698
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I guess I should say that my fingers are crossed in hopes that cooler heads will prevail and something may change for the anticipated arraignment, not so much for my one-off next time. But I really don't expect that to happen. I was about 95% sure we'd never get in last night, especially upon walking in and seeing that it was fairly full. But maybe it was their way of giving me a parting gift...
Apr 24, 2017, 4:10 pm
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Yeah, I'd gathered that from following this thread so don't be too hard on yourself. I guess I should say that my fingers are crossed in hopes that cooler heads will prevail and something may change for the anticipated arraignment, not so much for my one-off next time. But I really don't expect that to happen.
I was about 95% sure we'd never get in last night, especially upon walking in and seeing that it was fairly full. But maybe it was their way of giving me a parting gift...
I guess I should say that my fingers are crossed in hopes that cooler heads will prevail and something may change for the anticipated arraignment, not so much for my one-off next time. But I really don't expect that to happen. I was about 95% sure we'd never get in last night, especially upon walking in and seeing that it was fairly full. But maybe it was their way of giving me a parting gift...
Apr 24, 2017, 5:53 pm
#700
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According to the AS Twitter team, for now, it's just PDX. My guess is that it will eventually go system wide because if you don't follow this whole saga on travel blogs like FT, it's going to be very confusing (read: frustrating) for someone who gets denied entry at an AL in PDX, but regularly visits the other lounges. If this ends up being implemented one lounge at a time, my guess after PDX is that the SEA lounges will shut down to PP, then LAX, and finally ANC.
I am pretty sure that PP pays AS for every PP entry... I don't know what the rate is, but presumably something less than the $27 that PP charges for guests, so perhaps $20. It's quite a lot of money for AS to give up, so I would guess they'll try to continue to admit PP members during less busy times, if they can manage it.
When does the C lounge open in SEA? That will reduce the pressure on D.
Apr 24, 2017, 6:10 pm
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There are many airlines that have some lounges open to PP and others not, so it doesn't need to be implemented systemwide. It's more of a capacity question.
I am pretty sure that PP pays AS for every PP entry... I don't know what the rate is, but presumably something less than the $27 that PP charges for guests, so perhaps $20. It's quite a lot of money for AS to give up, so I would guess they'll try to continue to admit PP members during less busy times, if they can manage it.
When does the C lounge open in SEA? That will reduce the pressure on D.
I am pretty sure that PP pays AS for every PP entry... I don't know what the rate is, but presumably something less than the $27 that PP charges for guests, so perhaps $20. It's quite a lot of money for AS to give up, so I would guess they'll try to continue to admit PP members during less busy times, if they can manage it.
When does the C lounge open in SEA? That will reduce the pressure on D.
They were very clear about PDX no longer accepting PP after May 1st so I doubt they are going to start admitting PP members during "slow" times.
Apr 24, 2017, 6:16 pm
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Apr 24, 2017, 6:30 pm
#703
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While "capacity issues" is generally the reason given for not accepting PP, that reason is still up for debate since the sign has been out at various lounges when they were clearly less than 50%....there are even reports of the sign not being out when the the lounge was relatively full....so, there appears to be no real rhyme or reason for when the sign is out.
They were very clear about PDX no longer accepting PP after May 1st so I doubt they are going to start admitting PP members during "slow" times.
Interestingly, at other airlines, the credit card partner has demanded removal of PP access (or PP Select). That doesn't seem to be the case here.
Apr 24, 2017, 8:38 pm
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9 a.m. this morning, 24 April. D Concourse. No sign out. VERY affable check-in agents. Priority Club machine broken and they had to do it manually. I said "I was suprised the sign wasn't out; you guys must really get frustrated with all the PP Select folks." She said, "No, not really. We're glad to have you when we can. This is a mess that Chase created and I understand they're taking a lot of heat for it too."
There was one seat available downstairs.
There was one seat available downstairs.
Apr 24, 2017, 9:37 pm
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I was really bummed when they removed access from the United Club at IAH Terminal A in Houston. That lounge is right across from the Alaska gates.