Feb 18, 2017, 12:46 am
Last edit by: tattikat2
Date, Location, Day of week, Time of Day and method of access for denial.
Please include if you are actually flying Alaska that day, or some other airline, so we can see if the BR is giving preference to AS flyers
3/10/17 SEA D AL 4pm Friday - sign out (was flying Alaska)
3/12/17 SEA N & A AL 6pm Sunday PP denied
2/18/17 PDX AL 6:00am Saturday (flying AS) - PP denied (sign out)
3/21/17 SEA D AL 9am Tuesday - sign out
3/21/17 SEA N AL 9:45am Tuesday - sign out
3/24/17 SEA D AL 1:15pm Friday - sign out (was flying Alaska)
3/25/17 SEA D AL 1:15pm Saturday - sign out
3/25/17 SEA D AL 9:00pm Saturday - sign out
3/26/17 PDX C AL 9:15pm Sunday - Sign out (Was flying AS)
4/2/17 SEA D AL 4:00pm Monday - sign out
4/3/17 SEA D AL 10:30a Monday - sign out - PP requested-denied - was allowed with AL lounge pass - 90% occupied
4/10/17 SEA D 6:45 AM - sign out
4/12/17 SEA D 8:20 PM - sign out
4/14/17 SEA D 10:00 AM - sign out
4/16/17 SEA N 11:00am - sign out, was even upgraded to F on AS and MVP75K, no dice. It was a busy Easter Sunday
4/17/17 PDX 5:35am - no sign, admitted with a smile
4/22/17 PDX 6:35am - no sign, admitted
4/22/17 SEA D 8:15am - no sign, went to Centurion Lounge instead
4/23/17 SEA D and N 4:30pm - sign out. N lounge half empty.
4/26/17 LAX 11:30am - no sign
4/26/17 SEA D no sign, went to The Club
4/27/17 SEA D 10:40 AM - sign out
4/27/17 SEA N 10:50 AM - sign put out just as I entered, admitted with PP as the "last one"
4/27/17 SEA N 4pm - no sign, admitted with PP and a Delta bp
4/30/17 SEA D no sign, admitted
5/1/17 PDX 6:30 am - no sign, admitted, maybe 50% full
5/8/17 SEA D 11:00 am - new sign saying no PP guests, admitted as a PP cardholder.
5/15/17 SEA D 12:30pm sign out no PP
5/18/17 SEA N 7pm Thursday - no sign, admitted (PP, flying AS)
5/18/17 ANC 11:30pm Thursday - no sign, denied, but admitted 45 minutes later (PP, flying AS)
5/19/17 ANC 3pm Friday - no sign, admitted (PP, flying AS)
5/23/17 PDX C 4pm Tue - admitted (PP, flying WN).
5/27/17 PDX 7:50am no sign
6/28/17 LAX 12:30pm/3:30pm- no sign, admitted
9/25/17 PDX 2:00 - sign out, admitted without comment (PP, flying AA)
11/8/17 SEA C 09:00 AM - admitted (PP, flying AS). Only a few seats available, but at least a few seats remained available the whole time I was there
11/16/17 LAX 09:00 AM- sign out, no PP
02/0319 LAX 5pm Sunday-sign out no PP (flying AS)
Please include if you are actually flying Alaska that day, or some other airline, so we can see if the BR is giving preference to AS flyers
3/10/17 SEA D AL 4pm Friday - sign out (was flying Alaska)
3/12/17 SEA N & A AL 6pm Sunday PP denied
2/18/17 PDX AL 6:00am Saturday (flying AS) - PP denied (sign out)
3/21/17 SEA D AL 9am Tuesday - sign out
3/21/17 SEA N AL 9:45am Tuesday - sign out
3/24/17 SEA D AL 1:15pm Friday - sign out (was flying Alaska)
3/25/17 SEA D AL 1:15pm Saturday - sign out
3/25/17 SEA D AL 9:00pm Saturday - sign out
3/26/17 PDX C AL 9:15pm Sunday - Sign out (Was flying AS)
4/2/17 SEA D AL 4:00pm Monday - sign out
4/3/17 SEA D AL 10:30a Monday - sign out - PP requested-denied - was allowed with AL lounge pass - 90% occupied
4/10/17 SEA D 6:45 AM - sign out
4/12/17 SEA D 8:20 PM - sign out
4/14/17 SEA D 10:00 AM - sign out
4/16/17 SEA N 11:00am - sign out, was even upgraded to F on AS and MVP75K, no dice. It was a busy Easter Sunday
4/17/17 PDX 5:35am - no sign, admitted with a smile
4/22/17 PDX 6:35am - no sign, admitted
4/22/17 SEA D 8:15am - no sign, went to Centurion Lounge instead
4/23/17 SEA D and N 4:30pm - sign out. N lounge half empty.
4/26/17 LAX 11:30am - no sign
4/26/17 SEA D no sign, went to The Club
4/27/17 SEA D 10:40 AM - sign out
4/27/17 SEA N 10:50 AM - sign put out just as I entered, admitted with PP as the "last one"
4/27/17 SEA N 4pm - no sign, admitted with PP and a Delta bp
4/30/17 SEA D no sign, admitted
5/1/17 PDX 6:30 am - no sign, admitted, maybe 50% full
5/8/17 SEA D 11:00 am - new sign saying no PP guests, admitted as a PP cardholder.
5/15/17 SEA D 12:30pm sign out no PP
5/18/17 SEA N 7pm Thursday - no sign, admitted (PP, flying AS)
5/18/17 ANC 11:30pm Thursday - no sign, denied, but admitted 45 minutes later (PP, flying AS)
5/19/17 ANC 3pm Friday - no sign, admitted (PP, flying AS)
5/23/17 PDX C 4pm Tue - admitted (PP, flying WN).
5/27/17 PDX 7:50am no sign
6/28/17 LAX 12:30pm/3:30pm- no sign, admitted
9/25/17 PDX 2:00 - sign out, admitted without comment (PP, flying AA)
11/8/17 SEA C 09:00 AM - admitted (PP, flying AS). Only a few seats available, but at least a few seats remained available the whole time I was there
11/16/17 LAX 09:00 AM- sign out, no PP
02/0319 LAX 5pm Sunday-sign out no PP (flying AS)
Priority Pass and denied entry at the Alaska Lounge b/c of space - 2018 and Earlier
Apr 17, 2017, 2:20 pm
#631
Join Date: Nov 2013
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If you don't mind begging, it seems to be a fairly good strategy for getting into the lounges....my guess is that your success rate is going to be around 50%....when the SEA lounges eventually get around to banning PP "Select" like PDX, I don't think even begging will help.
Apr 18, 2017, 6:44 am
#632
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: SEA town
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Posts: 627
4/17 11:20AM - D denying all PP cardholders entry
4/17 11:25AM - N denying all PP cardholders entry
4/17 11:25AM - N denying all PP cardholders entry
Apr 18, 2017, 9:14 am
#633
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,639
Didn't see any sign yesterday at PDX 5-6ish. I was a little surprised but I had 4 month old with me so didn't try to go in.
Apr 18, 2017, 11:58 am
#634
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,621
Hi -
1030AM, PDX had the sign out and was actively turning people away. Place was packed, only a couple of the metal chair available. Even the computer room in the back was full.
1030AM, PDX had the sign out and was actively turning people away. Place was packed, only a couple of the metal chair available. Even the computer room in the back was full.
Apr 18, 2017, 12:06 pm
#635
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Apr 18, 2017, 12:09 pm
#636
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 398
Was maybe 70% full.
Apr 18, 2017, 3:32 pm
#637
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kirkland, WA
Programs: AS 75K,UA Gold 1.6MM, Hilton Dia, Marriott LT Plat, Hyatt Glb, Natl Exec, Hertz 5*
Posts: 3,657
4/17 11:30 am. D location. Sign out
4/17 11:40 am. N location Sign out. Went in and asked nicely if Mrs cblaisd and I could come in since we were flying in upgraded F and I am lowly MVP. Agent first said no, then immediately said wait a moment. She went and looked in the lounge , came back, asked her two colleagues if ok to take sign down since a bunch of folks just left. They agreed. Lounge probably 15-20% full
4/17 11:40 am. N location Sign out. Went in and asked nicely if Mrs cblaisd and I could come in since we were flying in upgraded F and I am lowly MVP. Agent first said no, then immediately said wait a moment. She went and looked in the lounge , came back, asked her two colleagues if ok to take sign down since a bunch of folks just left. They agreed. Lounge probably 15-20% full
It was a little busier after the Easter holiday but there were still plenty of seats.
I then mentioned that if they just swipe my PP card instead of taking my pass they would actually make some money for my visit
The agent said "No, I can't, then everybody...." pfft... who will know?
Would be nice if they just let 75Ks use PP under the table...
Now down to 2 passes and with C lounge not until June I am not sure I can make it and will have to go loungeless on a few trips.
As I might have mentioned before, on my first time using a 75K pass I found they never did actually pull it, so someone had mercy.
Apr 18, 2017, 3:52 pm
#638
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Don't us 75K's only get 4 passes a year? Seems this would be a way to get unlimited access on your 75K passes by just saying, hey, why don't you just swipe my PP card instead of taking a 75k pass, makes everyone a winner, AS gets more money and 75K doesn't have to use a pass. So got entry without using a pass when a pass is the only reason you got in.
Apr 18, 2017, 6:10 pm
#639
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Posts: 12,319
Apr 19, 2017, 11:37 am
#640
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kirkland, WA
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Say they are allowing everyone in, then all seats are full. Then they can't allow anyone in, but at least everyone is treated equally.
But they can't discriminate whether one person in PP gets in vs. another. I presume that is written into the PP agreement?
Apr 19, 2017, 11:58 am
#641
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: LAX, LGB, SNA
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Ok, but do they do have the right apparently to selectively discriminate one group over another. (AL Lounge members vs. PP)
Say they are allowing everyone in, then all seats are full. Then they can't allow anyone in, but at least everyone is treated equally.
But they can't discriminate whether one person in PP gets in vs. another. I presume that is written into the PP agreement?
Say they are allowing everyone in, then all seats are full. Then they can't allow anyone in, but at least everyone is treated equally.
But they can't discriminate whether one person in PP gets in vs. another. I presume that is written into the PP agreement?
Apr 19, 2017, 12:19 pm
#642
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Don't worry, PDX is cutting off access in a few weeks and I'm sure it won't be long until SEA, LAX, and ANC do the same. There should be more than enough room for AL members in the very near future.
Apr 19, 2017, 2:02 pm
#643
Join Date: Nov 2014
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K
Posts: 102
4/16 2:00pm - LAX terminal 6 - allowing PP entry with no issues. Was ~75% full
Apr 19, 2017, 4:24 pm
#644
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 998
Or some other stupid reason...
Apr 19, 2017, 7:48 pm
#645
Join Date: Feb 2006
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I've always wondered how many people enter via PP vs BR vs F vs AA AC etc.
AS is the only domestic airline to accept PP. Would not be surprised if access was terminated---still this would encourage me to fly on other airlines.
AS is the only domestic airline to accept PP. Would not be surprised if access was terminated---still this would encourage me to fly on other airlines.