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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible

NORTH AMERICA

- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)

CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)

ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)

AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)

MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)

CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25

Code:

F-GSPA – NEV4
 F-GSPE – NEV4
 F-GSPM – NEV4
 F-GSPZ – NEV4

Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25

Code:

F-GSPD
 F-GSPP

Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25

Code:

F-GSPB – BEST
 F-GSPC – BEST
 F-GSPF – BEST
 F-GSPG – BEST
 F-GSPH – BEST
 F-GSPI – BEST
 F-GSPJ - BEST
 F-GSPK – BEST
 F-GSPQ – BEST
 F-GSPR – BEST
 F-GSPS – BEST
 F-GSPT – BEST
 F-GSPU – BEST
 F-GSPV – BEST
 F-GSPX – BEST
 F-GSPY – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25

Code:

F-GSPL – BEST
 F-GSPO – BEST
 F-GSPN – BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43

Code:

All Converted to BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43

Code:

F-GSQD – NEV4
 F-GSQE – NEV4
 F-GZNH – NEV4
 F-GZNI – NEV4
 F-GZNJ - NEV4
 F-GZNK – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43

Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43

Code:

F-GSQA – BEST
 F-GSQB – BEST
 F-GSQC – BEST
 F-GSQF – BEST
 F-GSQG – BEST
 F-GSQH – BEST
 F-GSQI – BEST
 F-GSQJ – BEST
 F-GSQK – BEST
 F-GSQL – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GSQM – BEST
 F-GSQU - BEST
 F-GSQV – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GZNA – BEST
 F-GZNB - BEST
 F-GZNC – BEST
 F-GZND - BEST
 F-GZNE – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43

Code:

F-GSQN – NEV4
 F-GSQO – NEV4
 F-GSQP – NEV4
 F-GSQR – NEV4
 F-GSQS – NEV4
 F-GSQT – NEV4
 F-GSQX – NEV4
 F-GZNF – NEV4
 F-GZNG – NEV4
 F-GZNL – NEV4
 F-GZNN – NEV4
 F-GZNO – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43

Code:

F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015)
 F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015)
 F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015)
 F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)

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Feb 3, 2017, 12:01 pm

#871

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I'd pick seats over the aisle so that I don't have to listen to eveything about my mother in law either.

Guess in some cases it doesn't work.

Feb 3, 2017, 10:25 pm

#872

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So it looks like the retrofit is progressing with an awfully slow pace...is there a seat supply issue?
Or is this it and AF is not going to retrofit more 772/773s?

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Feb 4, 2017, 1:30 am

#873

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Quote:

Originally Posted by agjil

So it looks like the retrofit is progressing with an awfully slow pace...is there a seat supply issue?
Or is this it and AF is not going to retrofit more 772/773s?

All responses to your question are given in this thread, so take time to read it.

Feb 4, 2017, 9:14 am

#874

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brunos

All responses to your question are given in this thread, so take time to read it.

Well I did read a fair amount (although not all pages), and just wanted to clarify my understanding, but I guess I should have phrased it differently.

Anyways, if I understood correctly, there are no more plans to retrofit remaining 77Ws but all 772s will continue the retrofit process, correct?

I have a flight booked on AF for YYZ-CDG in business class, and the aircraft type is listed as 772 but sadly the seat config is showing as 2-3-2.
I assume this means I will get the NEV4 seats. (please correct me if I'm wrong)
Do all NEV4 seats on 772s have large IFE screens by any chance, or are there also NEV4 seats with those tiny screens?

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Feb 4, 2017, 10:15 pm

#875

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Quote:

Originally Posted by agjil

You are correct, all 772 should have BEST and retrofit is to be completed sometimes in July, August or September.
AF is not famous for its screen size. NEV4 have tiny screens.BEST has larger screens but rather small compared to some of its competitors.

Feb 4, 2017, 10:28 pm

#876

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brunos

AF is not famous for its screen size. NEV4 have tiny screens.BEST has larger screens but rather small compared to some of its competitors.

In fact NEV4 can have large or small screens depending on the following scenarios.

1. New plane delivered with NEV4 = large screen

2. Retrofitted plane previously equipped with NEV3 = small screen, as they reused the IFE

3. Retrofitted plane previously equipped with NEV2 = large screen, as they changed the IFE.

I am not 100% sure about case 3., but pretty confident it is correct.

Feb 5, 2017, 12:32 am

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The last passenger 772 was delivered 15 years ago (AF on ordered 2 cargo 772 after 2002). NEV4 was introduced in early 2010s, so no new deliveries with NEV4. The 772s with NEV4 are only retrofitted (there are also NEV2 and NEV3).

But I would not say that the recent NEV4 have a large screen, it is quite small. Maybe a bit larger than NEV2 or NEV3, but still small for business class.

Feb 5, 2017, 4:20 am

#878

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The NEV4 with big screen (on 777-300ER) are similar to other airlines (Delta, China Eastern etc.), it just that the screen is further away.

Feb 5, 2017, 4:53 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carnarvon

your case #3 is indeed correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brunos

But I would not say that the recent NEV4 have a large screen, it is quite small. Maybe a bit larger than NEV2 or NEV3, but still small for business class.

The NEV4 large screen is a bit smaller than the BEST screen, but of a very decent size. It is much larger than the NEV2/3 one.

Feb 5, 2017, 7:22 am

#880

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Quote:

Originally Posted by carnarvon

Thanks, this is really helpful information for me.
Hopefully I will get a 772 plane that falls under #3, as there are no 772s that fall under #1 per brunos' post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brunos

Does this mean that there are still 772s that have NEV2 or NEV3 seats?
I thought all 772s at this point are equipped with either BEST or NEV4 seats, but maybe I'm wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldorak

your case #3 is indeed correct.

The NEV4 large screen is a bit smaller than the BEST screen, but of a very decent size. It is much larger than the NEV2/3 one.

Thanks for the clarification!

Feb 5, 2017, 10:54 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by agjil

Does this mean that there are still 772s that have NEV2 or NEV3 seats?
I thought all 772s at this point are equipped with either BEST or NEV4 seats, but maybe I'm wrong

All B777 fleet is either NEV4 or BEST.
NEV2 is completely gone now for long already. NEV3 is still around unfortunately, in the 6 first A388 delivered to AF (the others have NEV4).

Feb 5, 2017, 11:45 am

#882

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I have a flight from CDG-IAH (AF636) in the middle of September, and unfortunately the aircraft is no longer in the best configuration. It is now a A332 with NEV4.

Feb 5, 2017, 6:02 pm

#883

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldorak

All B777 fleet is either NEV4 or BEST.
NEV2 is completely gone now for long already. NEV3 is still around unfortunately, in the 6 first A388 delivered to AF (the others have NEV4).

Thank you for the info, good to know that most of AF's fleet have at least NEV4 products.

Feb 9, 2017, 4:07 pm

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Going by reports here, it seems the new 1-2-1 772 layout for JFK-CDG is good for couples -- did I read correctly that you can remove that stupid white separator thing?

Feb 9, 2017, 4:08 pm

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Going by reports here, it seems the new 1-2-1 772 layout for JFK-CDG is good for couples -- did I read correctly that you can remove that stupid white separator thing?

Yes