Jul 21, 2015, 3:15 am
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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Code:
F-GSPA – NEV4 F-GSPE – NEV4 F-GSPM – NEV4 F-GSPZ – NEV4
Code:
F-GSPD F-GSPP
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Code:
F-GSPB – BEST F-GSPC – BEST F-GSPF – BEST F-GSPG – BEST F-GSPH – BEST F-GSPI – BEST F-GSPJ - BEST F-GSPK – BEST F-GSPQ – BEST F-GSPR – BEST F-GSPS – BEST F-GSPT – BEST F-GSPU – BEST F-GSPV – BEST F-GSPX – BEST F-GSPY – BESTor
Code:
F-GSPL – BEST F-GSPO – BEST F-GSPN – BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Code:
All Converted to BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Code:
F-GSQD – NEV4 F-GSQE – NEV4 F-GZNH – NEV4 F-GZNI – NEV4 F-GZNJ - NEV4 F-GZNK – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Code:
F-GSQA – BEST F-GSQB – BEST F-GSQC – BEST F-GSQF – BEST F-GSQG – BEST F-GSQH – BEST F-GSQI – BEST F-GSQJ – BEST F-GSQK – BEST F-GSQL – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GSQM – BEST F-GSQU - BEST F-GSQV – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GZNA – BEST F-GZNB - BEST F-GZNC – BEST F-GZND - BEST F-GZNE – BESTor
Code:
F-GSQN – NEV4 F-GSQO – NEV4 F-GSQP – NEV4 F-GSQR – NEV4 F-GSQS – NEV4 F-GSQT – NEV4 F-GSQX – NEV4 F-GZNF – NEV4 F-GZNG – NEV4 F-GZNL – NEV4 F-GZNN – NEV4 F-GZNO – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
Code:
F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015) F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015) F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015) F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)
777 New Cabins - Deployment Schedule
Aug 21, 2014, 7:17 am
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777 New Cabins - Deployment Schedule
As posted on the French Travel Agent Portal, agentconnect.biz, here is the deployment Schedule of new 772 and 773 cabins equipped with new cabins.
3-cabin B772:
4-cabin B773:
Link to Business cabin thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-f...iscussion.html
Link to La Premiere cabin thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-f...14-merged.html
3-cabin B772:
- CDG-JFK - AF008/009 : Since June 20th, 2014
- CDG-GRU - AF456/459 : From Feb 16th, 2015
- CDG-PVG - AF112/117 : From Dec 29th, 2014
- CDG-HND - AF274/293 : From Oct 26th to Nov 10th, 2014, and AF272/279 : From Nov 19th, 2014
- CDG-BOS - AF338/333 : From March 30th, 2015
- CDG-DLA-SSG - AF 958/953 : From March 16th, 2015
4-cabin B773:
- CDG-JFK - AF010/011 : From Dec 22th, 2014
- CDG-SIN-JKT - AF254/253 : From Sep 29th, 2014
- CDG-DXB - AF3884/3881 : From Feb 2nd, 2015
- CDG-IAH - AF 636/639 : From Feb 9th, 2015
Link to Business cabin thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-f...iscussion.html
Link to La Premiere cabin thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-f...14-merged.html
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Aug 21, 2014, 9:42 am
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Thanks very useful! Could I suggest making this a sticky and updating as new information comes? I think this is a very important piece of information for many of us!
Aug 21, 2014, 9:51 am
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What about IAD?
Thanks, good to know.
Has anyone heard anything about upgrading the 777 on CDG-IAD route?
Has anyone heard anything about upgrading the 777 on CDG-IAD route?
Aug 21, 2014, 10:06 am
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Aug 22, 2014, 8:45 am
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I am seeing new C on the HND (AF274/293) flights after 10 Nov too.
(as also reported in separate HND and WOW threads)
(as also reported in separate HND and WOW threads)
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Aug 22, 2014, 10:20 am
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"Air France corporate" video with the new 4 cabins:
http://corporate.airfrance.com/uploa...T-CORPO_01.mp4
http://corporate.airfrance.com/uploa...T-CORPO_01.mp4
Aug 22, 2014, 11:29 am
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Hip hip hip hurray to our moderators for "stickying" this! 
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Aug 24, 2014, 3:39 am
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As posted on the French Travel Agent Portal, agentconnect.biz, here is the deployment Schedule of new 772 and 773 cabins equipped with new cabins.
3-cabin B772:
4-cabin B773:
3-cabin B772:
- CDG-JFK - AF008/009 : Since June 20th, 2014
- CDG-GRU - AF456/459 : From Feb 16th, 2015
- CDG-PVG - AF112/117 : From Dec 29th, 2014
- CDG-HND - AF274/293 : From Oct 26th to Nov 10th, 2014, and AF272/279 : From Nov 19th, 2014
- CDG-BOS - AF338/333 : From March 30th, 2015
- CDG-DLA-SSG - AF 958/953 : From March 16th, 2015
4-cabin B773:
- CDG-JFK - AF010/011 : From Dec 22th, 2014
- CDG-SIN-JKT - AF254/253 : From Sep 29th, 2014
- CDG-DXB - AF3884/3881 : From Feb 2nd, 2015
- CDG-IAH - AF 636/639 : From Feb 9th, 2015
First, the info is a bit different from the seat maps loaded by AF (e.g. the two HND flights seem to have the new seats by late November). I wonder who is right. Also would be useful to know whether those flights with NEW are daily or every other day.
Second, I try to infer the delivery schedule from this table. It seems that a single 772 is in operation since June on AF8/9, although that is underutilizing the frame as it is idle for some 6 hours at CDG.
If the info above is correct, a second 772 will start operating HND from October 26 AF274/293 every other day. It is even given daily after 10/11 on AF seat maps. The schedule for 274/293 is a bit strange. It leaves CDG at 23:25 (say Monday) arrives HND 19:25 (Tuesday) spends 4 hours there, leaves at 00:30 and returns at CDG at 05:30 (tuesday). Then it seems idle till the evening which is unlikely. That frame could be used for some other route, but I do not see any other scheduled addition from October in the Table above.
I do not know how AF manages its fleet but I would expect frames would do a mixture of extra LH and short LH to optimize utilization.
Anyone with better information on frame utilization and the exact number of planes being delivered between June 2014 and March 2015 (9 months)? A possible guess is 8 772 and 4 773, but there could be more if some new frames are used to offer a daily flight to extra LH. And I guess that the new F will only be available on 29 September.
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- CDG-JFK - AF008/009 (J/W/Y) : Since June 20th, 2014
- CDG-SIN-JKT - AF254/253 (P/J/W/Y) : From Sep 29th, 2014
- CDG-HND - AF274/293 (J/W/Y) : From Oct 26th to Nov 10th, 2014, and AF272/279 (J/W/Y) : From Nov 19th, 2014
- CDG-JFK - AF010/011 (P/J/W/Y) : From Dec 22th, 2014
- CDG-PVG - AF112/117 (J/W/Y) : From Dec 29th, 2014
- CDG-DXB - AF3884/3881 (P/J/W/Y) : From Feb 2nd, 2015
- CDG-IAH - AF 636/639 (P/J/W/Y) : From Feb 9th, 2015
- CDG-GRU - AF456/459 (J/W/Y) : From Feb 16th, 2015
- CDG-DLA-SSG - AF 958/953 (J/W/Y) : From March 16th, 2015
- CDG-BOS - AF338/333 (J/W/Y) : From March 30th, 2015
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"Air France corporate" video with the new 4 cabins:
http://corporate.airfrance.com/uploa...T-CORPO_01.mp4
http://corporate.airfrance.com/uploa...T-CORPO_01.mp4
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Aug 27, 2014, 3:05 pm
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I suppose there's a slight typo here as AF253 does SGN-CDG; would it be AF259 instead?
Regarding seat maps and actual seat selection, any idea when it will be available? Is there a general rule for how long time in advance they are published?
Regarding seat maps and actual seat selection, any idea when it will be available? Is there a general rule for how long time in advance they are published?
Aug 27, 2014, 4:07 pm
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What do you mean ? For the flight I booked to HND, I had access to the seat map, as usual (but displaying the new cabin).
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I was playing around with dates for CDG-SIN (ie after Sept 29th 2014), and I'm seing some dates with the old seat map (2-3-2 configuration) and other dates with the new seat map (1-2-1). Is this a bug in the interface, or will there be a mix of old and new seat configurations?
In other words, as I'm booked on a SIN-CDG early October with a seat map that has not changed since the booking date (ie the old configuration), will I get the old or the new seat?