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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible

NORTH AMERICA

- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)

CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)

ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)

AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)

MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)

CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25

Code:

F-GSPA – NEV4
 F-GSPE – NEV4
 F-GSPM – NEV4
 F-GSPZ – NEV4

Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25

Code:

F-GSPD
 F-GSPP

Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25

Code:

F-GSPB – BEST
 F-GSPC – BEST
 F-GSPF – BEST
 F-GSPG – BEST
 F-GSPH – BEST
 F-GSPI – BEST
 F-GSPJ - BEST
 F-GSPK – BEST
 F-GSPQ – BEST
 F-GSPR – BEST
 F-GSPS – BEST
 F-GSPT – BEST
 F-GSPU – BEST
 F-GSPV – BEST
 F-GSPX – BEST
 F-GSPY – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25

Code:

F-GSPL – BEST
 F-GSPO – BEST
 F-GSPN – BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43

Code:

All Converted to BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43

Code:

F-GSQD – NEV4
 F-GSQE – NEV4
 F-GZNH – NEV4
 F-GZNI – NEV4
 F-GZNJ - NEV4
 F-GZNK – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43

Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43

Code:

F-GSQA – BEST
 F-GSQB – BEST
 F-GSQC – BEST
 F-GSQF – BEST
 F-GSQG – BEST
 F-GSQH – BEST
 F-GSQI – BEST
 F-GSQJ – BEST
 F-GSQK – BEST
 F-GSQL – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GSQM – BEST
 F-GSQU - BEST
 F-GSQV – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GZNA – BEST
 F-GZNB - BEST
 F-GZNC – BEST
 F-GZND - BEST
 F-GZNE – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43

Code:

F-GSQN – NEV4
 F-GSQO – NEV4
 F-GSQP – NEV4
 F-GSQR – NEV4
 F-GSQS – NEV4
 F-GSQT – NEV4
 F-GSQX – NEV4
 F-GZNF – NEV4
 F-GZNG – NEV4
 F-GZNL – NEV4
 F-GZNN – NEV4
 F-GZNO – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43

Code:

F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015)
 F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015)
 F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015)
 F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)

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Feb 9, 2017, 10:27 pm

#886

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Thank you! Will use this for the crazy Premium Fare deal going on for July, JFK-NAP RT for $1600 or so in J.

Feb 12, 2017, 1:30 am

#887

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CUN will now be served year round instead of winter season only. A COI-config is used on this route (14 NEV4 J seats). But, as part of this service extension, CUN will be served by a B772 from May 3 to Oct 8 with the following config : 28J 24W 260Y(source : Agent Connect)). So I believe this 28J, being the last one we learned on this forum for the 772, means BEST seats to CUN during this period

Feb 12, 2017, 1:34 am

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BEST cabins are now available on ORY-CAY (AF852/AF853, B772). I have updated the wiki.

Feb 12, 2017, 6:56 am

#889

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rosenkavalier

I see that AF 82 CDG-SFO (772) has BEST J on Wednesdays and Fridays in the summer schedule...
I was really tempted to select that option when I bought my ticket last night, but since its 6 months out and there could be equipment changes, I decided to go for KL 789 both ways...think I made the right call? Would have loved to try both AF and KL reverse herringbone but a bit too much uncertainty as SFO seems to be an 'unstable' destination when it comes to BEST/NEV4...

I think you made the right call. I booked a flight CDG-SFO at the end of the year. It wasn't worth it for me to connect through AMS or LAX. Will live with NEV4 and take the non-stop.

I've been tracking the SFO flights for a couple of weeks to see if there is any pattern and unstable is the right word. It looks like a full retrofit of the 773 planes used on this route is not happening. This has been widely confirmed.

So the only hope to get BEST on this route is through equipment substitution. Which seems to happen at least once per week. Usually on Tuesday and occasionally on Wednesday. On that day, it looks like they use a 772 with BEST.

Just to keep us on our toes, occasionally they will throw in a retrofitted 773 on another day.

Full disclosure, I only looked at about 3 weeks.

But this would seem to confirm the occasional reports of people getting BEST out of SFO.

Feb 12, 2017, 12:39 pm

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Quote:

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According to flightradar24, F-GSPB operated AF6266 ORY-BOD on Nov 16. Then the next recorded flight under that a/c registration after Nov 16 was Dec 18 AF264 CDG-ICN. Basically, flightradar24 recorded no activities with F-GSPB between Nov 17 and Dec 17.

Safe to assume F-GSPB was being retrofitted from NEV4 to BEST between Nov 17 through Dec 17?

According to this recent report, F-GSPB is BEST: http://flight-report.com/fr/report/2...-Vancouver-YVR

I have removed F-GSPB from the NEV4 list on the wiki.

Wow! No warm breakfast dishes for Lounge L

, unlike M and K per the report.

Feb 12, 2017, 2:35 pm

#891

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SFO-CDG shows BEST for some flights in the summer (right now).

Feb 12, 2017, 6:32 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldorak

BEST cabins are now available on ORY-CAY (AF852/AF853, B772). I have updated the wiki.

That is a bit strange. I would not expect Cayenne to be premium heavy. I guess that French civil servants lobbied.
But with so many destinations having only NEV, that is really surprising.

Feb 12, 2017, 7:33 pm

#893

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How do you check, do a flight search and look for cabins with 1-2-1?

Of course if the booking is months out, they could change planes on you ...

Feb 12, 2017, 8:18 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wco81

How do you check, do a flight search and look for cabins with 1-2-1?

Of course if the booking is months out, they could change planes on you ...

if you search for flights on AF website, there is a logo "design+" IIRC for flights operated with a BEST cabin.

Feb 12, 2017, 8:19 pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brunos

That is a bit strange. I would not expect Cayenne to be premium heavy. I guess that French civil servants lobbied.
But with so many destinations having only NEV, that is really surprising.

I was surprised too !

Feb 13, 2017, 5:31 pm

#896

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YUL-CDG AF345 on FEB13 showed BEST all the way to 6 hours to departure. Now operated by F-GSPM. Not happy.

Feb 14, 2017, 3:36 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brunos

That is a bit strange. I would not expect Cayenne to be premium heavy. I guess that French civil servants lobbied.
But with so many destinations having only NEV, that is really surprising.

At this rythm we may well see all French DOM-TOMs be served by BEST...

Feb 14, 2017, 7:20 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldorak

At least a new information posted by AF: ORY-JFK will be BEST from 13/02.

Looks like they will be using the 772 with 28 seats in Business.

Feb 15, 2017, 6:37 pm

#899

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Quote:

Originally Posted by th14

Thanks for the response, and confirming my suspicion that SFO is pretty unstable when it comes to BEST rostering...Reading the last few posts, now they are sending BEST planes to the caribbean and holiday destinations? Has management completely lost the plot?!

Feb 16, 2017, 12:51 am

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I fear the problem with SFO-CDG is that it's served only by AF and United nonstop. And United business class is crap.