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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Code:
F-GSPA – NEV4 F-GSPE – NEV4 F-GSPM – NEV4 F-GSPZ – NEV4
Code:
F-GSPD F-GSPP
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Code:
F-GSPB – BEST F-GSPC – BEST F-GSPF – BEST F-GSPG – BEST F-GSPH – BEST F-GSPI – BEST F-GSPJ - BEST F-GSPK – BEST F-GSPQ – BEST F-GSPR – BEST F-GSPS – BEST F-GSPT – BEST F-GSPU – BEST F-GSPV – BEST F-GSPX – BEST F-GSPY – BEST or
Code:
F-GSPL – BEST F-GSPO – BEST F-GSPN – BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Code:
All Converted to BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Code:
F-GSQD – NEV4 F-GSQE – NEV4 F-GZNH – NEV4 F-GZNI – NEV4 F-GZNJ - NEV4 F-GZNK – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Code:
F-GSQA – BEST F-GSQB – BEST F-GSQC – BEST F-GSQF – BEST F-GSQG – BEST F-GSQH – BEST F-GSQI – BEST F-GSQJ – BEST F-GSQK – BEST F-GSQL – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GSQM – BEST F-GSQU - BEST F-GSQV – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GZNA – BEST F-GZNB - BEST F-GZNC – BEST F-GZND - BEST F-GZNE – BEST or
Code:
F-GSQN – NEV4 F-GSQO – NEV4 F-GSQP – NEV4 F-GSQR – NEV4 F-GSQS – NEV4 F-GSQT – NEV4 F-GSQX – NEV4 F-GZNF – NEV4 F-GZNG – NEV4 F-GZNL – NEV4 F-GZNN – NEV4 F-GZNO – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
Code:
F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015) F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015) F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015) F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)
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#796
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Making my annual trip to France out of YVR in late August, and finally see BEST aircraft on Wednesdays and Fridays throughout late August into October. I cancelled on #374 this past September and flew KLM (decent interior, lie flat seats, but my luggage didn't arrive in Bordeaux). So I'm glad to see the new interiors on this route. Someone posted that FGSP-B is NEV4? I don't think so.....my friend flew on that aircraft earlier this month and reported 1 - 2 - 1 configuration in Y class.
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AF used to provide quarterly information on routes served by BEST and progress in retrofit. Those turned out to be moderately accurate and with delays in retrofit. For the past year they have plaid the ostrich, being very discrete. They do a lot of local advertising when BEST starts to be used on a destination, but not when it is removed.
All 19 77W supposed to be retrofitted are by now. How many of the 25 772 to be retrofitted remain with NEV4 is unknown. My guess is around 10.
All 19 77W supposed to be retrofitted are by now. How many of the 25 772 to be retrofitted remain with NEV4 is unknown. My guess is around 10.
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AF is now operating a 772 with BEST on Saturdays on the CDG-SDQ route. I guess this will be only during the winter period (before they used the 747 for the saturday flight during the winter season) and most likely will go back to the COI 77W slaveship.
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I have no figures to refer to, but what I can say for sure is that all 77W are not retrofitted. Indeed there are still the COI version around, and even for the non-COI, I can share that I have a booking to GIG in February and the seat map is 2-3-2 so NEV4 (B77W). For ATL, the 1st daily AF rotation is operated by a NEV4 B77W, but on the positive side, the 2nd AF rotation to ATL has BEST consistently (AF688/689).
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I have no figures to refer to, but what I can say for sure is that all 77W are not retrofitted. Indeed there are still the COI version around, and even for the non-COI, I can share that I have a booking to GIG in February and the seat map is 2-3-2 so NEV4 (B77W). For ATL, the 1st daily AF rotation is operated by a NEV4 B77W, but on the positive side, the 2nd AF rotation to ATL has BEST consistently (AF688/689).
We had lengthy discussions about the fact that only a small portion of the 77W fleet (19/43) was being retrofitted, others having the "leisure" of "COI" config, but that is not the point raised here. Many destinations (like GIG) will get the "leisure (NEV4)" 77W configuration and these have no P.
However, the retrofit plan for 772 is still under way. All 25 772 will get BEST (and no P).
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Dear Goldorak, I stand by my statement. I stated that all 19 77W that were supposed to be retrofitted have been retrofitted. There is no plan to retrofit the others or have deliveries of 77W in BEST. Hence, the retrofit program for 77W is complete. These retrofitted 77W were the ones with old P.
We had lengthy discussions about the fact that only a small portion of the 77W fleet (19/43) was being retrofitted, others having the "leisure" of "COI" config, but that is not the point raised here. Many destinations (like GIG) will get the "leisure (NEV4)" 77W configuration and these have no P.
However, the retrofit plan for 772 is still under way. All 25 772 will get BEST (and no P).
We had lengthy discussions about the fact that only a small portion of the 77W fleet (19/43) was being retrofitted, others having the "leisure" of "COI" config, but that is not the point raised here. Many destinations (like GIG) will get the "leisure (NEV4)" 77W configuration and these have no P.
However, the retrofit plan for 772 is still under way. All 25 772 will get BEST (and no P).
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Yes, I heard the same rumor.
But if they do it after completing the A330 and A380 retrofit, it won't start before 2019. AF has time to change its mind (and CEO) several times.
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New to AF. Is a 1-2-1 configuration on a 772 J the BEST layout?
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I'm so far having bad luck on SFO-CDG leg. Every time I flew, it was NEV4 :'(
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Flying SFO-CDG in July 2017 on 777-300. Any idea what configuration it'll be?
Flying CDG-SFO as well, listed as 777-200. Same question?
Flying CDG-SFO as well, listed as 777-200. Same question?
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It seems all 777-300 that fly to SFO now are NEV4, and as mentioned above, it's unlikely they will refit any more of those. On 777-200 you have better chances, though.
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There appears to be an error in the Wiki. Flew 772 F-GSPQ eastbound TATL a couple of weeks ago and was NEV4, not BEST as listed here. Was my first time in AF J and seats were definitely tired and food mediocre. They also forgot to care the cheese course with no explanation/apology. When I booked, the config was BEST and the seat map bounced back and forth with NEV4 as late as 24 hours prior to departure. A shame the whole 777 fleet is not being upgraded.
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There appears to be an error in the Wiki. Flew 772 F-GSPQ eastbound TATL a couple of weeks ago and was NEV4, not BEST as listed here. Was my first time in AF J and seats were definitely tired and food mediocre. They also forgot to care the cheese course with no explanation/apology. When I booked, the config was BEST and the seat map bounced back and forth with NEV4 as late as 24 hours prior to departure. A shame the whole 777 fleet is not being upgraded.
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