Jul 21, 2015, 3:15 am
Last edit by: FN-GM
LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Code:
F-GSPA – NEV4 F-GSPE – NEV4 F-GSPM – NEV4 F-GSPZ – NEV4
Code:
F-GSPD F-GSPP
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Code:
F-GSPB – BEST F-GSPC – BEST F-GSPF – BEST F-GSPG – BEST F-GSPH – BEST F-GSPI – BEST F-GSPJ - BEST F-GSPK – BEST F-GSPQ – BEST F-GSPR – BEST F-GSPS – BEST F-GSPT – BEST F-GSPU – BEST F-GSPV – BEST F-GSPX – BEST F-GSPY – BESTor
Code:
F-GSPL – BEST F-GSPO – BEST F-GSPN – BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Code:
All Converted to BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Code:
F-GSQD – NEV4 F-GSQE – NEV4 F-GZNH – NEV4 F-GZNI – NEV4 F-GZNJ - NEV4 F-GZNK – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Code:
F-GSQA – BEST F-GSQB – BEST F-GSQC – BEST F-GSQF – BEST F-GSQG – BEST F-GSQH – BEST F-GSQI – BEST F-GSQJ – BEST F-GSQK – BEST F-GSQL – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GSQM – BEST F-GSQU - BEST F-GSQV – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GZNA – BEST F-GZNB - BEST F-GZNC – BEST F-GZND - BEST F-GZNE – BESTor
Code:
F-GSQN – NEV4 F-GSQO – NEV4 F-GSQP – NEV4 F-GSQR – NEV4 F-GSQS – NEV4 F-GSQT – NEV4 F-GSQX – NEV4 F-GZNF – NEV4 F-GZNG – NEV4 F-GZNL – NEV4 F-GZNN – NEV4 F-GZNO – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
Code:
F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015) F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015) F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015) F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)
777 New Cabins - Deployment Schedule
Jun 23, 2017, 4:35 pm
#1021
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 11
I have purchased a Premium Economy ticket. The flight has the the "old" NEV4 business class seat, 2-3-2. I've never flown Air France. I can use points to upgrade to business class. Is it worth it to upgrade to the old angle-flat NEV4 seat, or better to stick with the Premium Economy seat and save my points for other things?
Jun 24, 2017, 2:07 am
#1022
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: CPT,AMS
Posts: 4,412
I have purchased a Premium Economy ticket. The flight has the the "old" NEV4 business class seat, 2-3-2. I've never flown Air France. I can use points to upgrade to business class. Is it worth it to upgrade to the old angle-flat NEV4 seat, or better to stick with the Premium Economy seat and save my points for other things?
Jun 24, 2017, 2:17 am
#1023
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Paris, France
Programs: AF/KL Flying Blue Platinum for life/Club2000 Ultimate, Accor ALL Diamond
Posts: 21,928
I have purchased a Premium Economy ticket. The flight has the the "old" NEV4 business class seat, 2-3-2. I've never flown Air France. I can use points to upgrade to business class. Is it worth it to upgrade to the old angle-flat NEV4 seat, or better to stick with the Premium Economy seat and save my points for other things?
personally, I would !
Jun 24, 2017, 4:20 am
#1024
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold
Posts: 15,564
AF PE is really bad for sleeping, so NEV4 would be a huge improvement.
That being said, the "cost" of PE plus points upgrade is high. You would have been better off buying a J award in the first place. In my view, miles upgrade are only worth when you company pays for PE and you upgrade with your miles.
That being said, the "cost" of PE plus points upgrade is high. You would have been better off buying a J award in the first place. In my view, miles upgrade are only worth when you company pays for PE and you upgrade with your miles.
Jun 24, 2017, 12:38 pm
#1025
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: SJC / SFO
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum; Hilton Gold
Posts: 785
Oh, go for it. When you see these BEST vs. NEV4 vs. D1 767 etc. discussions, keep in mind it's coming from spoiled J flyers. J > Y, W in every case.
Jun 30, 2017, 7:42 am
#1026
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: MAN
Programs: FB Platinum
Posts: 500
From Oct 29 2017 all CDG-NRT (&v.v.) will no longer be BEST - now marked with the 777+ logo on the booking engine. CDG-HND will continue as BEST.
I note that flights to HND are all premium price (i.e. >£2000 for business and >£4000 for first) which is rather disappointing.
I note that flights to HND are all premium price (i.e. >£2000 for business and >£4000 for first) which is rather disappointing.
Jun 30, 2017, 9:39 am
#1027
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: AA Million Miler, Mosaic, Delta Platinum
Posts: 1,561
Is there a clear schedule of which 4-class 777s fly to JFK from CDG? Looking at some dates in August/September, and it seems most days there are none and some days it's the first flight out while others it's the last.
Jul 6, 2017, 11:56 pm
#1028
Moderator: Flying Blue (Air France & KLM)
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Rotterdam, NL
Programs: Flying Blue (AF/KL)
Posts: 4,711
All cabins updated
On the TA website they posted the following message:
Link to overview destinations with new cabins:
http://acn.klmsys.net/downloads/bijl...ins%20(EN).pdf
Air France heeft haar Boeing 777-vloot, bestaande uit 44 vliegtuigen, volledig voorzien van nieuwe reiscabines. De toestellen beschikken over 28 stoelen in Business Class, 24 stoelen in Premium Economy en 260 stoelen in Economy. Klik hier voor een korte impressie van de nieuwe reiscabines.
http://acn.klmsys.net/downloads/bijl...ins%20(EN).pdf
Jul 7, 2017, 8:56 am
#1029
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hong Kong, France
Programs: FB , BA Gold
Posts: 15,564
On the TA website they posted the following message:
Link to overview destinations with new cabins:
http://acn.klmsys.net/downloads/bijl...ins%20(EN).pdf
Link to overview destinations with new cabins:
http://acn.klmsys.net/downloads/bijl...ins%20(EN).pdf
Jul 9, 2017, 3:02 am
#1030
Moderator: Flying Blue (Air France & KLM)
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Rotterdam, NL
Programs: Flying Blue (AF/KL)
Posts: 4,711
That confused me as well.
Jul 9, 2017, 11:19 pm
#1031
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Paris, France
Programs: El Al Matmid, Air France Flying Blue Silver
Posts: 2,294
Are all 772s now retrofitted?
Jul 9, 2017, 11:58 pm
#1032
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Jul 10, 2017, 11:50 am
#1033
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 205
Recently flew CDG-BOS. Plane looked brand new to me (777-200). Had a single window seat (business class). Thought it was a very good deal for the price I paid. FAs were friendly, food pretty good. I think AF is now my top EU TATL airline choice (as long as they keep the 1-2-1 in biz).
Jul 10, 2017, 2:13 pm
#1034
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Paris, France
Programs: El Al Matmid, Air France Flying Blue Silver
Posts: 2,294
Jul 12, 2017, 1:21 pm
#1035
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 6
Just to make sure ... CDG to HND/NRT
From Oct 29 2017 all CDG-NRT (&v.v.) will no longer be BEST - now marked with the 777+ logo on the booking engine. CDG-HND will continue as BEST.
I note that flights to HND are all premium price (i.e. >£2000 for business and >£4000 for first) which is rather disappointing.
I note that flights to HND are all premium price (i.e. >£2000 for business and >£4000 for first) which is rather disappointing.
Just to be clear, because I am planning a business trip out in early December ... they took the upgraded biz class seats off the NRT route but they are still on the HND routes? It's a slog of a trip (around the world) so lying flat for sleep is key ... or we will go through Amsterdam on KLM 777.
Thank you!
EDIT: Okay did my own research (forgive the rookie poster) - currently the AF website shows the new biz class on the HND flights and the old on NRT directs. Should I be confident for a trip in December it will remain that way? Anyone with experience on that?
Last edited by johnhbriggs; Jul 13, 2017 at 7:20 am Reason: new info