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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Code:
F-GSPA – NEV4 F-GSPE – NEV4 F-GSPM – NEV4 F-GSPZ – NEV4
Code:
F-GSPD F-GSPP
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Code:
F-GSPB – BEST F-GSPC – BEST F-GSPF – BEST F-GSPG – BEST F-GSPH – BEST F-GSPI – BEST F-GSPJ - BEST F-GSPK – BEST F-GSPQ – BEST F-GSPR – BEST F-GSPS – BEST F-GSPT – BEST F-GSPU – BEST F-GSPV – BEST F-GSPX – BEST F-GSPY – BESTor
Code:
F-GSPL – BEST F-GSPO – BEST F-GSPN – BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Code:
All Converted to BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Code:
F-GSQD – NEV4 F-GSQE – NEV4 F-GZNH – NEV4 F-GZNI – NEV4 F-GZNJ - NEV4 F-GZNK – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Code:
F-GSQA – BEST F-GSQB – BEST F-GSQC – BEST F-GSQF – BEST F-GSQG – BEST F-GSQH – BEST F-GSQI – BEST F-GSQJ – BEST F-GSQK – BEST F-GSQL – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GSQM – BEST F-GSQU - BEST F-GSQV – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GZNA – BEST F-GZNB - BEST F-GZNC – BEST F-GZND - BEST F-GZNE – BESTor
Code:
F-GSQN – NEV4 F-GSQO – NEV4 F-GSQP – NEV4 F-GSQR – NEV4 F-GSQS – NEV4 F-GSQT – NEV4 F-GSQX – NEV4 F-GZNF – NEV4 F-GZNG – NEV4 F-GZNL – NEV4 F-GZNN – NEV4 F-GZNO – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
Code:
F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015) F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015) F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015) F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)
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Jun 1, 2017, 9:43 am
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Jun 1, 2017, 12:09 pm
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Question - flying AF19 in J in August (new 1/2/1 config); ticket is not showing any meal service. That can't possibly be correct, right?
Jun 1, 2017, 12:58 pm
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Jun 1, 2017, 3:44 pm
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Someone implied that not all SFO and CDG flights have BEST because SFO wasn't really a premium destination for AF. LAX would be more of a premium destination.
But even LAX doesn't get all BEST flights.
So is there a US destination premium enough for AF to get their best J product?
But even LAX doesn't get all BEST flights.
So is there a US destination premium enough for AF to get their best J product?
Jun 2, 2017, 12:36 am
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Someone implied that not all SFO and CDG flights have BEST because SFO wasn't really a premium destination for AF. LAX would be more of a premium destination.
But even LAX doesn't get all BEST flights.
So is there a US destination premium enough for AF to get their best J product?
But even LAX doesn't get all BEST flights.
So is there a US destination premium enough for AF to get their best J product?
If you want to find a correlation between something and AF BEST presence, clearly, we have never found one here. AF has been very slow to retrofit the 777 fleet and this concerns only a part of the fleet, so obviously plenty of destinations see no BEST at all or only on some selected flights, whatever they are considered premium or not.
Jun 15, 2017, 10:06 am
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I did another ATL ride this week in BEST, but unfortunately, as feared, no more BEST to ATL from next week. So no more BEST to any Skyteam US hubs, outside JFK which is not a good connection point and also which is a destination loosing soon BEST seats with the replacement of a 777 by A380 
Jun 20, 2017, 1:47 pm
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HAV now sees the BEST J on some days (Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday)
AF820 CDG 13:15 HAV 17:15
AF825 HAV 19:40 CDG 10:45 +1
I have to say that the recently announced BEST routes are rather strange and you can really wonder if there is a well defined strategy...
indeed we have now HAV, recently CUN, CAY, ... MLE (new route) will have the BEST seat too. But, otherwise, plenty of heavy-business oriented destinations and with intense competition see no or limited BEST cabins (JFK has now only one BEST flight only I think, IAD only one out of 2, ORD none, GIG none, SCL partial, etc etc).
Add to this the recent decision of AF to retrofit the 77W in COI config with a new J seat (not the BEST seat, another model), but still no decision taken to retrofit the 77W in config 42J (NEV4)...?
If there is someone who understand AF strategy, please let me know, because I am lost...
AF820 CDG 13:15 HAV 17:15
AF825 HAV 19:40 CDG 10:45 +1
I have to say that the recently announced BEST routes are rather strange and you can really wonder if there is a well defined strategy...
indeed we have now HAV, recently CUN, CAY, ... MLE (new route) will have the BEST seat too. But, otherwise, plenty of heavy-business oriented destinations and with intense competition see no or limited BEST cabins (JFK has now only one BEST flight only I think, IAD only one out of 2, ORD none, GIG none, SCL partial, etc etc).
Add to this the recent decision of AF to retrofit the 77W in COI config with a new J seat (not the BEST seat, another model), but still no decision taken to retrofit the 77W in config 42J (NEV4)...?
If there is someone who understand AF strategy, please let me know, because I am lost...
Jun 20, 2017, 7:03 pm
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Hopefully the Best website (http://best.airfrance.com) is here to keep us up to date.
Jun 21, 2017, 1:59 am
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Add to this the recent decision of AF to retrofit the 77W in COI config with a new J seat (not the BEST seat, another model), but still no decision taken to retrofit the 77W in config 42J (NEV4)...?
If there is someone who understand AF strategy, please let me know, because I am lost...
If there is someone who understand AF strategy, please let me know, because I am lost...
Jun 21, 2017, 2:06 pm
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actually (I'm talking about business class), you can find up to 3 (and 4 in a close future with the retrofit of the 332 fleet) versions of the hard product,
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different kinds of the soft product :
> ultra-business
> business "classic"
> business COI and some other leisure destinations (BKK, YUL) operated with 77W 14J
> "business COI" -like on some destinations operated with 772 28J depending on the "Compo Peq" such as ICN, YVR, etc.
not easy to understand on a marketing point of view...
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different kinds of the soft product :
> ultra-business
> business "classic"
> business COI and some other leisure destinations (BKK, YUL) operated with 77W 14J
> "business COI" -like on some destinations operated with 772 28J depending on the "Compo Peq" such as ICN, YVR, etc.
not easy to understand on a marketing point of view...
Jun 21, 2017, 4:32 pm
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To be fair, I don't think you can compare those 2 ones. The 28J config you quote is with the BEST seats, but in a middle-size cabin so certainly not "COI-like".
Jun 22, 2017, 12:01 am
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just wanna do a quick check. seems like AF only flies one direct flight a day SIN-CDG and vice versa, AF257 AF256
from the wiki, and a quick search on the web, it seems like this route has already been fully converted to BEST seats? from the limited flight history i could see, it seems to be the case, without last minute swaps.
from the wiki, and a quick search on the web, it seems like this route has already been fully converted to BEST seats? from the limited flight history i could see, it seems to be the case, without last minute swaps.
Jun 22, 2017, 12:13 am
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just wanna do a quick check. seems like AF only flies one direct flight a day SIN-CDG and vice versa, AF257 AF256
from the wiki, and a quick search on the web, it seems like this route has already been fully converted to BEST seats? from the limited flight history i could see, it seems to be the case, without last minute swaps.
from the wiki, and a quick search on the web, it seems like this route has already been fully converted to BEST seats? from the limited flight history i could see, it seems to be the case, without last minute swaps.
Jun 22, 2017, 12:33 am
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thanks Goldorak!!
Jun 22, 2017, 8:32 am
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I was talking about the soft product...Depending on the CompoPeq in J (2 PNC only in 772 28J to some destinations like ICN or YVR, 3 PNC on other destinations), you have the choice among 3 or 4 main courses ....