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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible

NORTH AMERICA

- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)

CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)

ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)

AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)

MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)

CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25

Code:

F-GSPA – NEV4
 F-GSPE – NEV4
 F-GSPM – NEV4
 F-GSPZ – NEV4

Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25

Code:

F-GSPD
 F-GSPP

Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25

Code:

F-GSPB – BEST
 F-GSPC – BEST
 F-GSPF – BEST
 F-GSPG – BEST
 F-GSPH – BEST
 F-GSPI – BEST
 F-GSPJ - BEST
 F-GSPK – BEST
 F-GSPQ – BEST
 F-GSPR – BEST
 F-GSPS – BEST
 F-GSPT – BEST
 F-GSPU – BEST
 F-GSPV – BEST
 F-GSPX – BEST
 F-GSPY – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25

Code:

F-GSPL – BEST
 F-GSPO – BEST
 F-GSPN – BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43

Code:

All Converted to BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43

Code:

F-GSQD – NEV4
 F-GSQE – NEV4
 F-GZNH – NEV4
 F-GZNI – NEV4
 F-GZNJ - NEV4
 F-GZNK – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43

Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43

Code:

F-GSQA – BEST
 F-GSQB – BEST
 F-GSQC – BEST
 F-GSQF – BEST
 F-GSQG – BEST
 F-GSQH – BEST
 F-GSQI – BEST
 F-GSQJ – BEST
 F-GSQK – BEST
 F-GSQL – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GSQM – BEST
 F-GSQU - BEST
 F-GSQV – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GZNA – BEST
 F-GZNB - BEST
 F-GZNC – BEST
 F-GZND - BEST
 F-GZNE – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43

Code:

F-GSQN – NEV4
 F-GSQO – NEV4
 F-GSQP – NEV4
 F-GSQR – NEV4
 F-GSQS – NEV4
 F-GSQT – NEV4
 F-GSQX – NEV4
 F-GZNF – NEV4
 F-GZNG – NEV4
 F-GZNL – NEV4
 F-GZNN – NEV4
 F-GZNO – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43

Code:

F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015)
 F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015)
 F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015)
 F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)

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Dec 21, 2014, 4:10 pm

#121

joyu12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cedricgerald

Stupid question : is there any US route served with the new F ? (or which will be served by March)
160 k+ miles one way is very high but tempted to try the new F cabin and especially the ground service at CDg

Does window seat in this new F only for elite+ and high fare bucket ?

Does AF the only airline with this 1-2-1 J cabin which restrict the selection of window seat at the time of booking ? If only we can be different in the good way....

AF10/11 to JFK based on what i know will receive the 4-class cabin in late January (26/01). IAH was supposed to get it in February but it was pushed back to the summer based on Goldorak's post a while back

Dec 22, 2014, 11:03 am

#122

CGRA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joyu12

thank you joyu for the info

Dec 22, 2014, 11:06 am

#123

gusdullius

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AF381 PEK-CDG and AF456 CDG-GRU showing the new config for October 2015

Dec 23, 2014, 8:46 am

#124

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AF # 9 - Additional Question

Can someone confirm that AF # 9 is still the newly config aircraft with the 1-2-1 lie-flat config?

I am booked on AF # 9 April 17 JFK-CDG and I notice that the aircraft has now been changed from a "777-200" to a "777-300ER" and my row has been moved from 1EF to 3EF.

I am trying to confirm that my wife and I will still be together in a 2-seat section in a lie-flat at the front bulkhead of the business class section?

Thanks~

Dec 23, 2014, 8:54 am

#125

MichielR

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AttorneyVin

Go to AF.com and look up the seat map for your flight. It will be rather obvious whether you have 1-2-1 or the old 2-3-2 config. That doesn't guarantee it won't change, of course.

New C is available in a handful of the 3 class -200 and 4 class -300W only, so the move from row 1 in a 3 class plane to row 3 in a 4 class plane is consistent.

Dec 23, 2014, 10:01 am

#126

AttorneyVin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MichielR

Sorry to ask a stupid question, how does one check the AF seat map? On DL, I just click "view seats" for any given flight, but I cannot figure out how to do that on AF?
I am able to bring up my AF reservation with the AF PNR and last name, but don't seem to be able to see the map?

Dec 23, 2014, 10:39 am

#127

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AttorneyVin

It's on "manage my booking" towards the bottom of the page (if you already have seats assigned, just click on the seat numbers, otherwise it is under seat preferences or something like that). It tends to work best on the country version of the website that corresponded to where you booked your ticket (.fr if you bought in France, .co.uk if you bought in the UK etc). You can also check on the KLM website with the same PNR.

Jan 2, 2015, 1:27 am

#128

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So I finally had the chance to have the BEST J cabin on my way back from HND (had NEV4 to go there). Great product. I particularly liked the private storage cabinet, the large tablet (and very easy to deploy), the IFE (but it was not a surprise as I already tried it during my trip in P back from SIN with Olivedel) and of course the seat. But I have to say that I didn't sleep better than on NEV4 in which I have always slept very well. Regarding sleeping position on the BEST seat, I noted that the maximum position was not very confortable for me. I had to go backward just a "drop" to have a better cushioning.

Jan 2, 2015, 1:32 am

#129

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Quote:

Originally Posted by franck75002

Last, but not the least, I was flying with a colleague: seats 7E and 7F. There is absolutely no way you can chat with each either as the 2 large cabinets separate you.

I traveled from HND with some family members who were seating in the middle block of 2 seats and the seat divider used for privacy can be removed very easily by the crew if you ask them. That's what we did and they were able to speak together without problem. In one of the overhead bin, there is a special place for storage of the removed seat dividers.

Jan 2, 2015, 3:44 am

#130

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Will all 77Ws eventually have the new F? I'm wondering about CDG-ICN, which through Dec looks like it's got the 77W with two rows in a 1-2-1 configuration. Thanks

Jan 2, 2015, 6:36 am

#131

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 54austin

Will all 77Ws eventually have the new F? I'm wondering about CDG-ICN, which through Dec looks like it's got the 77W with two rows in a 1-2-1 configuration. Thanks

All the 77W with F will ultimately have the new F but it can take years to equip. Many 77Ws will remain without F and it is not excluded that the number of destinations where F is no longer offered may increase in coming years.

Jan 2, 2015, 6:50 am

#132

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldorak

But I have to say that I didn't sleep better than on NEV4 in which I have always slept very well. Regarding sleeping position on the BEST seat, I noted that the maximum position was not very confortable for me. I had to go backward just a "drop" to have a better cushioning.

That sounds very worrying. I personally do not sleep well at all on NEV4 seat compared to fully flat/horizontal seats on other airlines, and if the new BEST seat is not better for sleeping I am quite worried.

Sadly, my recent AF J trips all had either the old seat or the planned new seat replaced by the old one so I could not try the new one and have decided not to book further long haul J AF trips for the moment as my last few trips were not good at all, and there are too many better alternative available. I was planning to give AF another chance when they get their act together and have equipped enough planes with the new J that one could be confident in getting it with my booking patterns (I usually book trips several months ahead of time).

Jan 2, 2015, 8:43 am

#133

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orbitmic

You should not see it that way. If you don't sleep well at all in NEV4, then it can only be better in the BEST seat

Jan 2, 2015, 11:05 am

#134

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldorak

You should not see it that way. If you don't sleep well at all in NEV4, then it can only be better in the BEST seat

I sure hope so!

Jan 2, 2015, 10:29 pm

#135

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orbitmic

I sure hope so!

So many airlines have flat beds. If it makes that much difference to you (and I sympathize completely) just call your travel agent with your needs and acceptable options. If time = money, it'll almost certainly end up saving you a bundle of $s and much anguish!