Jul 21, 2015, 3:15 am
Last edit by: FN-GM
LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Code:
F-GSPA – NEV4 F-GSPE – NEV4 F-GSPM – NEV4 F-GSPZ – NEV4
Code:
F-GSPD F-GSPP
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Code:
F-GSPB – BEST F-GSPC – BEST F-GSPF – BEST F-GSPG – BEST F-GSPH – BEST F-GSPI – BEST F-GSPJ - BEST F-GSPK – BEST F-GSPQ – BEST F-GSPR – BEST F-GSPS – BEST F-GSPT – BEST F-GSPU – BEST F-GSPV – BEST F-GSPX – BEST F-GSPY – BESTor
Code:
F-GSPL – BEST F-GSPO – BEST F-GSPN – BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Code:
All Converted to BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Code:
F-GSQD – NEV4 F-GSQE – NEV4 F-GZNH – NEV4 F-GZNI – NEV4 F-GZNJ - NEV4 F-GZNK – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Code:
F-GSQA – BEST F-GSQB – BEST F-GSQC – BEST F-GSQF – BEST F-GSQG – BEST F-GSQH – BEST F-GSQI – BEST F-GSQJ – BEST F-GSQK – BEST F-GSQL – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GSQM – BEST F-GSQU - BEST F-GSQV – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GZNA – BEST F-GZNB - BEST F-GZNC – BEST F-GZND - BEST F-GZNE – BESTor
Code:
F-GSQN – NEV4 F-GSQO – NEV4 F-GSQP – NEV4 F-GSQR – NEV4 F-GSQS – NEV4 F-GSQT – NEV4 F-GSQX – NEV4 F-GZNF – NEV4 F-GZNG – NEV4 F-GZNL – NEV4 F-GZNN – NEV4 F-GZNO – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
Code:
F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015) F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015) F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015) F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)
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Feb 19, 2015, 5:31 am
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One can blame AF for a lot of things but certainly not their FAs. I fail to remember some AF FA ruining my journey, which is not the case for some other European or American legacy airlines I fly less often.
On a side note, I think being a native French speaker helps in those circumstances.
One can blame AF for a lot of things but certainly not their FAs. I fail to remember some AF FA ruining my journey, which is not the case for some other European or American legacy airlines I fly less often.
On a side note, I think being a native French speaker helps in those circumstances.
Feb 19, 2015, 6:08 am
#197
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My 1st intl flight and we get the best AF has to offer.If it is your first international flight, I am sure you will be fine. It will be vastly more comfortable (and indeed more luxurious) an experience than you would get on any domestic flights with the marginal exceptions of AA transcon A321 and DL transcon 767s. Just make sure you get yourself a seat assignment for aisle or window (whichever you prefer) in advance to avoid the dreaded middle seat. NEV2 is not comfortable but if you fly NEV3 or NEV4 (I prefer the former, most people prefer the latter) you will be more than ok if you compare it to domestic experiences.
Feb 23, 2015, 8:44 am
#198
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Side question : what's the deadline to cancel an award ticket and have the miles back ? (not a promo award)
AF still doesn't want to give me a window/ solo seat on SIN / CDG on award without status (the computer say yes then no, why the computer can't say no at the beginning ? remind me of some people...
I found a solo : window seat on BA A380 in F so that's acceptable
)
AF still doesn't want to give me a window/ solo seat on SIN / CDG on award without status (the computer say yes then no, why the computer can't say no at the beginning ? remind me of some people...
I found a solo : window seat on BA A380 in F so that's acceptable
)
Feb 23, 2015, 8:52 am
#199
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Feb 23, 2015, 12:40 pm
#201
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Well, to be honest, they only started retrofitting planes a few months ago and AF has one of the largest fleet of long haul planes in the world so it was never going to be done in a few months in the best of cases! And they are always very slow at retrofitting planes which means that this is hardly the best of cases!
If it is your first international flight, I am sure you will be fine. It will be vastly more comfortable (and indeed more luxurious) an experience than you would get on any domestic flights with the marginal exceptions of AA transcon A321 and DL transcon 767s. Just make sure you get yourself a seat assignment for aisle or window (whichever you prefer) in advance to avoid the dreaded middle seat. NEV2 is not comfortable but if you fly NEV3 or NEV4 (I prefer the former, most people prefer the latter) you will be more than ok if you compare it to domestic experiences.
If it is your first international flight, I am sure you will be fine. It will be vastly more comfortable (and indeed more luxurious) an experience than you would get on any domestic flights with the marginal exceptions of AA transcon A321 and DL transcon 767s. Just make sure you get yourself a seat assignment for aisle or window (whichever you prefer) in advance to avoid the dreaded middle seat. NEV2 is not comfortable but if you fly NEV3 or NEV4 (I prefer the former, most people prefer the latter) you will be more than ok if you compare it to domestic experiences.
Feb 23, 2015, 1:20 pm
#202
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Wha I meant was that when you are not used to it, it all feels absolutely wonderful even if it is not one of the better J products. In fact, I imagine that for anyone who has never flown anything else than Y, even W would feel like immense luxury.
Feb 23, 2015, 1:48 pm
#203
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window seats on BEST are only allowed for J/C/D booking classes
Feb 23, 2015, 2:32 pm
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Feb 23, 2015, 5:45 pm
#205
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No, I remember mine very well too! (well, not quite - officially my first premium class experience was when we were upgraded when I was 1 but while my Mum keeps raving about her fond memories of that Air France gateau au chocolat, I'll admit I have no memory from that time. However, I do remember my first adult premium trip very well, which was also an upgrade).
Wha I meant was that when you are not used to it, it all feels absolutely wonderful even if it is not one of the better J products. In fact, I imagine that for anyone who has never flown anything else than Y, even W would feel like immense luxury.
Wha I meant was that when you are not used to it, it all feels absolutely wonderful even if it is not one of the better J products. In fact, I imagine that for anyone who has never flown anything else than Y, even W would feel like immense luxury.
Feb 23, 2015, 7:45 pm
#206
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Feb 23, 2015, 7:53 pm
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I have not traveled in BEST, but I understand that the layout is similar to that of the traditional Cirus seats as on CX or other airlines, eventhough AF seats are different and a bit smaller.
In that case the center seats are still solo seats and not much worse than the window seats. You do not see your neighbor in the other center seat as there is a big mass between you. You have a little bit less elbow space, but hardly so. All seats have the head lying near the aisle, so same type of foot traffic noise when sleeping and same type of view when sitting. Frankly not much of a difference.
In that case the center seats are still solo seats and not much worse than the window seats. You do not see your neighbor in the other center seat as there is a big mass between you. You have a little bit less elbow space, but hardly so. All seats have the head lying near the aisle, so same type of foot traffic noise when sleeping and same type of view when sitting. Frankly not much of a difference.
Feb 24, 2015, 6:59 am
#208
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I have not traveled in BEST, but I understand that the layout is similar to that of the traditional Cirus seats as on CX or other airlines, eventhough AF seats are different and a bit smaller.
In that case the center seats are still solo seats and not much worse than the window seats. You do not see your neighbor in the other center seat as there is a big mass between you. You have a little bit less elbow space, but hardly so. All seats have the head lying near the aisle, so same type of foot traffic noise when sleeping and same type of view when sitting. Frankly not much of a difference.
In that case the center seats are still solo seats and not much worse than the window seats. You do not see your neighbor in the other center seat as there is a big mass between you. You have a little bit less elbow space, but hardly so. All seats have the head lying near the aisle, so same type of foot traffic noise when sleeping and same type of view when sitting. Frankly not much of a difference.
Seems AF center seat are more private than CX center seat.
Feb 24, 2015, 9:41 am
#209
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Feb 24, 2015, 11:47 am
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The CX seat can move forward to make it easier to speak with your partner
So SIN / CDG there is a risk of not having the BEST cabin ?
plus I have to OLCI asap to have a window seat
plus it's expensive 80.000 miles
plus it's AF and IMHO they didn't deal with my complain well (the seat was first confirmed for 1 or 2 days, I'm paying for AF bug on seat assignment for BEST / award).
I prefer to keep the few AF miles for promo award
I don't believe that 80 k miles for a single J flight it's a very good use of miles (OK someone told me lately that he spent 600 k for 6 Y ticket and he was very happy to have saved 5 or 6K euros) so eveyone feel it differently