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LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible

NORTH AMERICA

- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)

CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)

ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)

AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)

MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)

CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25

Code:

F-GSPA – NEV4
 F-GSPE – NEV4
 F-GSPM – NEV4
 F-GSPZ – NEV4

Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25

Code:

F-GSPD
 F-GSPP

Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25

Code:

F-GSPB – BEST
 F-GSPC – BEST
 F-GSPF – BEST
 F-GSPG – BEST
 F-GSPH – BEST
 F-GSPI – BEST
 F-GSPJ - BEST
 F-GSPK – BEST
 F-GSPQ – BEST
 F-GSPR – BEST
 F-GSPS – BEST
 F-GSPT – BEST
 F-GSPU – BEST
 F-GSPV – BEST
 F-GSPX – BEST
 F-GSPY – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25

Code:

F-GSPL – BEST
 F-GSPO – BEST
 F-GSPN – BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43

Code:

All Converted to BEST

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43

Code:

F-GSQD – NEV4
 F-GSQE – NEV4
 F-GZNH – NEV4
 F-GZNI – NEV4
 F-GZNJ - NEV4
 F-GZNK – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43

Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43

Code:

F-GSQA – BEST
 F-GSQB – BEST
 F-GSQC – BEST
 F-GSQF – BEST
 F-GSQG – BEST
 F-GSQH – BEST
 F-GSQI – BEST
 F-GSQJ – BEST
 F-GSQK – BEST
 F-GSQL – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GSQM – BEST
 F-GSQU - BEST
 F-GSQV – BEST
 F-GSQY – BEST
 F-GZNA – BEST
 F-GZNB - BEST
 F-GZNC – BEST
 F-GZND - BEST
 F-GZNE – BEST
 
 
 or

Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43

Code:

F-GSQN – NEV4
 F-GSQO – NEV4
 F-GSQP – NEV4
 F-GSQR – NEV4
 F-GSQS – NEV4
 F-GSQT – NEV4
 F-GSQX – NEV4
 F-GZNF – NEV4
 F-GZNG – NEV4
 F-GZNL – NEV4
 F-GZNN – NEV4
 F-GZNO – NEV4

Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43

Code:

F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015)
 F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015)
 F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015)
 F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016)
 F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)

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Feb 5, 2015, 12:35 am

#181

johanfbg

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I am booked on the AF11 in the beginning of April. When I booked it was a 777 with the new business (1-2-1) but today when I checked the itinerary I had been assigned a new seat and the config is now 2-3-2. Doh.

Feb 5, 2015, 5:29 am

#182

JOUY31

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Updated presentation (in French)

https://www.agentconnect.biz/FR/fr/l...f/BEST_AGV.pdf

Quote:

La seule version de l'appareil permettra désormais au vendeur d'identifier si un vol est équipé d'une nouvelle cabine Best,
Cette configuration s’affiche à la dernière ligne de la DO : la configuration des avions BEST est : P4 J58 W28 Y206 ou J40 W24 Y216

Il est envisagé de reprendre ces affichages à l'automne 2015, quand le programme sera stabilisé

Loosely translated, the config for aircraft equipped with the new J or P cabins is: P4 J58 W28 Y206 or J40 W24 Y216; it may be updated in fall 2015.

Last edited by JOUY31; Feb 5, 2015 at 5:34 am

Feb 5, 2015, 5:42 am

#183

brunos

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JOUY31

Updated presentation (in French)

https://www.agentconnect.biz/FR/fr/l...f/BEST_AGV.pdf

Loosely translated, the config for aircraft equipped with the new J or P cabins is: P4 J58 W28 Y206 or J40 W24 Y216; it may be updated in fall 2015.

This document was already posted by delanotre in post 162.

AF logic really escapes me.
They sprinkle the few BEST planes to many destinations to maximize advertising impact rather than trying to insure that a destination or at least a flight number consistently gets BEST. That creates the problems encountered to JFK, a major market. While AF can boast its new seats to many destinations, many pax are bound for serious disappointment.
And to make sure the pax stay confused they refuse to give a name to each configuration (for example CX uses different 77A, B, C...) to refer to different configs.

Feb 5, 2015, 5:59 am

#184

JOUY31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brunos

This document was already posted by delanotre in post 162.

Sorry about that, you are quite right.

Feb 18, 2015, 12:30 am

#185

thebigeasytraveler

Join Date: Jan 2013

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Read all 13 pages and didn't see any info on AF681 ATL-CDG in J. Booked for Oct.

Can anyone help out on this one?

Feb 18, 2015, 1:11 am

#186

orbitmic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thebigeasytraveler

Read all 13 pages and didn't see any info on AF681 ATL-CDG in J. Booked for Oct.

Can anyone help out on this one?

Sure. Anything not listed is just likely to be old cabin - NEV2, 3, or 4.

Feb 18, 2015, 8:08 pm

#187

DLNewbie123

Join Date: Dec 2014

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World Business Class Seats (the new ones) on Air France

Hello Everyone!

Do you guys happen to know when the new Biz Class seats (World Business Class) will be rolled out on all the Air France 777-200's, or all planes in general?

I am flying from LAX to PPT Biz Class in September and it looks like I am still in the old configuration of 2-3-2 vs 1-2-1, and the seats aren't totally lay flat. Seems like the newer seats are totally lay flat.

Any info would be great!

Thanks,
John

Feb 18, 2015, 8:14 pm

#188

Tchiowa

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DLNewbie123

With over 100 flights on AF and the former UTA I'd say that even if AF is providing me with 5 star food, a live band and a cute little companion for the night, I wouldn't get on one of the planes.

The fact that they are just now trying to get halfway decent seats is telling in and of itself. But first, they need to get halfway decent FAs.

Feb 18, 2015, 8:15 pm

#189

obscure2k

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Please follow this thread on the AF Forum.
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Feb 18, 2015, 11:25 pm

#190

orbitmic

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Off the top of my head, expected completion was end of 2017 (someone will say if I remember wrong!) for the 777 fleet although this will undoubtedly be delayed...

Feb 18, 2015, 11:29 pm

#191

orbitmic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchiowa

With several hundreds of flights on AF, I really have no clue what you are talking about, FAs being one of the few things I can praise with the airline, typically finding them good to excellent with the usual exceptions.

Feb 18, 2015, 11:57 pm

#192

thebigeasytraveler

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orbitmic

Sure. Anything not listed is just likely to be old cabin - NEV2, 3, or 4.

Thank you for the information. This really makes me smile.

My 1st intl flight and we get the best AF has to offer.

Feb 19, 2015, 12:16 am

#193

Goldorak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orbitmic

Feb 19, 2015, 1:28 am

#194

olivedel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by orbitmic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldorak

Guys, I must say that I mostly agree with you, with the exception of English language skills that need to be really improved so FAs can be as engaging with English-speaking as they are with us, French-speaking folks.
I know I have been saying that for years on FT, but I hope that someone from AF would read that and actually do something to deeply improve the situation.

Feb 19, 2015, 2:59 am

#195

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Quote:

Originally Posted by olivedel

My partner speaks English and has never had problems with crew. She was expecting the worst but has always said to be very pleasantly surprised. She dislikes AF for many reasons but FAs is not one of them