Aug 12, 2020, 12:02 am
Last edit by: Adam Smith
You must call in for stopovers, multi-city, or complicated routings, until the new booking system launches in 2021.
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
- SE IKK redemption from the old program can be changed ("within reason") without repricing. Dates, routings, no problem. Origin/destination should be fine. But nothing that would have required a repricing under the old program. This is from Mark Nasr in https://www.facebook.com/pointsmiles...44878252851420
- The "Activity" page only shows you the most recent ~48 transactions. See this post for information on how to get older data.
- A partial refund may not be possible (e.g. if you book RT and outbound flight is cancelled by you or AC, to delete the first flight segment, you have to cancel the entire ticket and rebook the inbound at a potentially higher fare. It seems supervisor can grant exceptions.)
2020 Air Canada Aeroplan Program
Mar 18, 2021, 10:29 am
#1276
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: YQR
Programs: AC-100k, MR LTT
Posts: 258
My experience is that it is cumulative, both on Amex (which posts almost immediately, regardless of statement period) and CIBC, which posts shortly after the statement.
Mar 19, 2021, 11:57 pm
#1277
Join Date: Mar 2020
Programs: AC 75k
Posts: 704
Every month my status qualification boost is Posted spend/5 rounded down. I have never seen a single month that wasn't the case. If you or anyone else have seen a top up, I would appreciate hearing it. I am 9K over on spend with no correction.
IMPORTANT: TD card.
Mar 20, 2021, 4:11 pm
#1278
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Vancouver
Programs: AC SE100K 1MM, FB Platinum, Bonvoy Platinum Elite, IHG Gold Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 1,605
Did you actually confirm that you have received at least one bonus that was more than 1/5 of your monthly spend?
Every month my status qualification boost is Posted spend/5 rounded down. I have never seen a single month that wasn't the case. If you or anyone else have seen a top up, I would appreciate hearing it. I am 9K over on spend with no correction.
IMPORTANT: TD card.
Every month my status qualification boost is Posted spend/5 rounded down. I have never seen a single month that wasn't the case. If you or anyone else have seen a top up, I would appreciate hearing it. I am 9K over on spend with no correction.
IMPORTANT: TD card.
Mar 21, 2021, 1:14 am
#1279
Join Date: Mar 2020
Programs: AC 75k
Posts: 704
So far for me, there is registered 49K spend and 8k SQM. Again not CIBC or AMEX. If you are seeing a top up in any given month, then it is something for me to take up with TD.
For folks with TD, has anyone seen carryover month to month?
For folks with TD, has anyone seen carryover month to month?
Mar 21, 2021, 4:47 pm
#1280
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Vancouver
Programs: AC SE100K 1MM, FB Platinum, Bonvoy Platinum Elite, IHG Gold Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 1,605
Anyone have any news on the rollover of both eUpgrades and miles? There has been general radio silence as of late...
Mar 21, 2021, 7:11 pm
#1281
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 137
I'm going to wait until tomorrow to call back and try to add on the YYC-YVR leg. My thinking is that the good agents probably get the weekends off. lol.
Mar 22, 2021, 5:50 am
#1282
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: YKZ
Programs: AC MM SE, Marriott Titanium - Lifetime Plat 2nd Class, National Executive, Avis PP
Posts: 682
CC
Mar 22, 2021, 10:54 am
#1283
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,779
I wouldn't expect any communication from AC on it.
Mar 22, 2021, 2:20 pm
#1284
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: YEG
Programs: Table scraps from Aeroplan and AmEx Plat
Posts: 901
Looking at flying to Tokyo around Christmas as unlikely as it is, but the purpose of this question is to figure out how Aeroplan pricing works. YEG - NRT can be had for a little over 52K points in Business, one-way (33K in Y, so no-brainer with the lie-flats). On a couple of dates, it shows as that amount for up to 3 travelers. When I add the 4th person, the price jumps to over 113K, or 452K for all four. I am guessing all 4 have to purchased from the same bucket? Otherwise, the fourth person's effective/marginal rate is 296K, which is insane.
Any word of advice on how to navigate this issue - book 3, then the fourth at a higher but hopefully not ridiculous rate? How would I know what the fourth one booked separately will cost before the cheaper ones are all gone? Wait a few months? Forget about it altogether?
Any word of advice on how to navigate this issue - book 3, then the fourth at a higher but hopefully not ridiculous rate? How would I know what the fourth one booked separately will cost before the cheaper ones are all gone? Wait a few months? Forget about it altogether?
Mar 22, 2021, 2:36 pm
#1285
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: YOW
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 25
Looking at flying to Tokyo around Christmas as unlikely as it is, but the purpose of this question is to figure out how Aeroplan pricing works. YEG - NRT can be had for a little over 52K points in Business, one-way (33K in Y, so no-brainer with the lie-flats). On a couple of dates, it shows as that amount for up to 3 travelers. When I add the 4th person, the price jumps to over 113K, or 452K for all four. I am guessing all 4 have to purchased from the same bucket? Otherwise, the fourth person's effective/marginal rate is 296K, which is insane.
Any word of advice on how to navigate this issue - book 3, then the fourth at a higher but hopefully not ridiculous rate? How would I know what the fourth one booked separately will cost before the cheaper ones are all gone? Wait a few months? Forget about it altogether?
Any word of advice on how to navigate this issue - book 3, then the fourth at a higher but hopefully not ridiculous rate? How would I know what the fourth one booked separately will cost before the cheaper ones are all gone? Wait a few months? Forget about it altogether?
I booked the one for 85k. Then I booked the 2nd at the expensive price. Total was much lower than booking the seats in the one transaction.
Mar 22, 2021, 2:41 pm
#1286
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,779
YEG - NRT can be had for a little over 52K points in Business, one-way (33K in Y, so no-brainer with the lie-flats). On a couple of dates, it shows as that amount for up to 3 travelers. When I add the 4th person, the price jumps to over 113K, or 452K for all four. I am guessing all 4 have to purchased from the same bucket?
Otherwise, the fourth person's effective/marginal rate is 296K, which is insane.
Any word of advice on how to navigate this issue - book 3, then the fourth at a higher but hopefully not ridiculous rate?
How would I know what the fourth one booked separately will cost before the cheaper ones are all gone?
Wait a few months? Forget about it altogether?
Mar 23, 2021, 11:08 am
#1287
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 395
I have the TD - I have not hit $5k spend on any billing cycle yet I have the SQM bonus I would expect to have received (2000 miles so far).
Mar 24, 2021, 9:36 am
#1288
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,512
Hi, need some expertise is using my Aeroplan Miles. I don't use these enough and can't seem to get it straight in my head! Sorry. I do have a few questions that I am pretty sure will be simply answered by the experience on here.
1. When I am on the new web page and go through the process - at the end it comes up as using the full emails but also has the options if I want to possibly use some cash - except those options don't allow me to choose. If I go on my app those options become available? Is their a hiccup somewhere on the webpage that doesn't allow me to change my pricing options?
2. Most importantly - Please use your explanation as "Aeroplan for Dummies!" - So, I want to for example use my miles for a return flight to BKK. I don't necessarily want to use AC and pay all the surcharges or maybe I want to fly someone different on the Alliance. a.) Do I just search routes possibly flying out of YWG over DEN or something and jump on a United Flight - do I just call Aeroplan and give them my route and cross my fingers that something is available in reward flights. For example on AC it costs say 170,000 miles - No matter which airline I fly will it be the same miles coming from my account. b.) Is there any easy way to find reward seating availability on Star Alliance - FYI. I don't have any paid memberships to say Expert Flyer etc., if that is an option. Is it just simply using the ATI Matrix on all Star Alliance flights and again, give those when I call in to Aeroplan and hope their is availability.
3. If I wanted to check availability say on EVA or ANA etc., would I not have to be a member with them in order to log in and see if their is availability?
ANY thing else you can provide to assist me in this would be greatly appreciated and of course any beginner tips on getting the best bang for my buck on using my miles!
Appreciated.
1. When I am on the new web page and go through the process - at the end it comes up as using the full emails but also has the options if I want to possibly use some cash - except those options don't allow me to choose. If I go on my app those options become available? Is their a hiccup somewhere on the webpage that doesn't allow me to change my pricing options?
2. Most importantly - Please use your explanation as "Aeroplan for Dummies!" - So, I want to for example use my miles for a return flight to BKK. I don't necessarily want to use AC and pay all the surcharges or maybe I want to fly someone different on the Alliance. a.) Do I just search routes possibly flying out of YWG over DEN or something and jump on a United Flight - do I just call Aeroplan and give them my route and cross my fingers that something is available in reward flights. For example on AC it costs say 170,000 miles - No matter which airline I fly will it be the same miles coming from my account. b.) Is there any easy way to find reward seating availability on Star Alliance - FYI. I don't have any paid memberships to say Expert Flyer etc., if that is an option. Is it just simply using the ATI Matrix on all Star Alliance flights and again, give those when I call in to Aeroplan and hope their is availability.
3. If I wanted to check availability say on EVA or ANA etc., would I not have to be a member with them in order to log in and see if their is availability?
ANY thing else you can provide to assist me in this would be greatly appreciated and of course any beginner tips on getting the best bang for my buck on using my miles!
Appreciated.
Mar 24, 2021, 9:57 am
#1289
Suspended
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, NH, DL, AA, BA, Global Entry/Nexus, APEC..
Posts: 18,877
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1. When I am on the new web page and go through the process - at the end it comes up as using the full emails but also has the options if I want to possibly use some cash - except those options don't allow me to choose. If I go on my app those options become available? Is their a hiccup somewhere on the webpage that doesn't allow me to change my pricing options?
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1. When I am on the new web page and go through the process - at the end it comes up as using the full emails but also has the options if I want to possibly use some cash - except those options don't allow me to choose. If I go on my app those options become available? Is their a hiccup somewhere on the webpage that doesn't allow me to change my pricing options?
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I assume you meant "miles" not "emails"
As for your question as I quoted above, I went through the process to the Review page and here are 2 screen shots where I could see the options and select any of them. Is this what you were referring to?
Are the options greyed out on your screen? Which browser were you using? Was it regular or in private/incognito mode?
Mar 24, 2021, 10:07 am
#1290
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,512
Yes that is exactly what I am talking about. These options come up no problem on my app but on the desktop they are actually horizontal on the bottom of the page and says your redemption options. The points only one is already checked off and the others are all greyed out which I cannot select.
I am using both Chrome and Edge at home. Regular mode.
I am using both Chrome and Edge at home. Regular mode.