Aug 12, 2020, 12:02 am
Last edit by: Adam Smith
You must call in for stopovers, multi-city, or complicated routings, until the new booking system launches in 2021.
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
- SE IKK redemption from the old program can be changed ("within reason") without repricing. Dates, routings, no problem. Origin/destination should be fine. But nothing that would have required a repricing under the old program. This is from Mark Nasr in https://www.facebook.com/pointsmiles...44878252851420
- The "Activity" page only shows you the most recent ~48 transactions. See this post for information on how to get older data.
- A partial refund may not be possible (e.g. if you book RT and outbound flight is cancelled by you or AC, to delete the first flight segment, you have to cancel the entire ticket and rebook the inbound at a potentially higher fare. It seems supervisor can grant exceptions.)
2020 Air Canada Aeroplan Program
Nov 10, 2020, 12:48 am
#841
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: TK Elite Plus, IC Plat Ambassador, HH Diamond
Posts: 921
J pricing as an AP 25K with CIBC business VISA
YVR-NRT 51,500 6.4% discount
YVR-TPE 65,600 12.5% discount
YVR-HKG 62,300 16.9% discount
YVR-NRT 51,500 6.4% discount
YVR-TPE 65,600 12.5% discount
YVR-HKG 62,300 16.9% discount
Last edited by tobegold; Nov 10, 2020 at 2:04 am
Nov 10, 2020, 3:11 am
#842
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YOW
Programs: AC-SE100K, AC-3MM, Marriott- LT Titanium, SPG RIP
Posts: 2,959
Anybody else getting this??
"There are not enough Aeroplan points in your account to apply to this booking."
There are plenty of points for what I was looking to book... switched it to one PAX as I had read people were having issues when PAX>1.
"There are not enough Aeroplan points in your account to apply to this booking."
There are plenty of points for what I was looking to book... switched it to one PAX as I had read people were having issues when PAX>1.
Nov 10, 2020, 7:15 am
#843
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,354
Yes- same expiry as you...
If I understand they will use your SQD at the end of the year (doubled) and up your priority reards accordingly.
But I think we are missing the 4 base ones that were promised to SEs (I cant find these base allocations amounts by status on the site now)
If I understand they will use your SQD at the end of the year (doubled) and up your priority reards accordingly.
But I think we are missing the 4 base ones that were promised to SEs (I cant find these base allocations amounts by status on the site now)
You get the greater of 4 (for SE) or what your SQD earns you.
Nov 10, 2020, 9:02 am
#844
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,354
I guess that explains where my 100k is. I did pretty good on the rebooking.. YYZ-LAS in J next year. First check was 99,200 and $40 less. I then went to check my original booking and clicked cancel expecting to get "are you sure". BOOM there it went, so be careful. I go to book the flight and it's now 77,200 and $40 less. Cool. Booked! I then rechecked 10 minutes later and it's back up to 99,200. Go figure.
My guess is this was a Market Fare redemption, possibly with multiple pax but mikeycanuk can confirm.
Nov 10, 2020, 9:27 am
#845
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,779
And missing MM miles - for me that's pretty big. Yes, MM miles are more prominent on the website, but if I'm 100-150k off, that's an extra 2 years on 3-4 years that I expected. NO idea how I'm supposed to support a claim like that, whereas supporting my missing AQD is easy.
This year's status is not all that matters.
This year's status is not all that matters.
Nov 10, 2020, 9:27 am
#846
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 38
How can I search for the lowest priced day within a 7 or 30 day range in the new interface? And enforce direct flights and/or business class flights only?
Nov 10, 2020, 9:27 am
#847
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada
Programs: Aeroplan, Bonvoy, Alaska, Avios
Posts: 1,290
Nov 10, 2020, 9:35 am
#848
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Calgary,AB
Programs: Aeroplan 25K , UA ,WJ, HA, AMEX AP Reserve
Posts: 1,289
I currently hold the Amex Aeroplat. The T& C states that incumbent Reserve card holders dont qualify for the signup bonus but it doesnt mention those of us converted from Aeroplat. Will need to find that out. I had a TD Infinite (not Privilege) and I cancelled it about 2 weeks ago as the only reason I had it was fior the free bag on award flights & Zone 2 boarding (as I have no status) so now its redundant. If they give me the signup bonus for the new TD Infinite Privilege card, that plus the better earn rate than AMEX and the Nexus credit will be the deal breakers and mean the end of the AMEX for me. I have a BMO World Elite MC for Costco (although Costco may be changing next year) which gets me 4 free entries into Priority Pass lounges so Im covered there.
The earn rate on non- AC purchases and the Buddy pass is a dealbreaker. The Amex $100 fee credit and the Nexus credit from TD are a wash. Im a TD customer on all my banking anyway so the Infinite privilege will be a natural fit.
Nov 10, 2020, 9:37 am
#849
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: YXU
Programs: AC SE100K, Marriott Bonvoy Titanium Elite, IHG Platinum Elite
Posts: 326
Does anyone know if the TD Aeroplan Business Visa counts as a premium card?
Nov 10, 2020, 9:44 am
#850
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,354
They said pretty early on that there would be a large revamp of the booking interface sometime in 2021, so if it's not available now, my guess is you'll have to wait.
Nov 10, 2020, 9:51 am
#851
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE, Marriott - Titanium
Posts: 324
Anyone having issue with booking with points? I have more points than the booking total.
I'm getting this error below:
There are not enough Aeroplan points in your account to apply to this booking.
I'm getting this error below:
There are not enough Aeroplan points in your account to apply to this booking.
Flight summary
Redemption options
Unfortunately, there are not enough Aeroplan points in your account to apply to this booking .
Nov 10, 2020, 10:14 am
#852
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,204
Anyone having issue with booking with points? I have more points than the booking total.
I'm getting this error below:
There are not enough Aeroplan points in your account to apply to this booking.
I'm getting this error below:
There are not enough Aeroplan points in your account to apply to this booking.
Flight summary
Redemption options
Unfortunately, there are not enough Aeroplan points in your account to apply to this booking .
Nov 10, 2020, 10:39 am
#853
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE, Marriott - Titanium
Posts: 324
Nov 10, 2020, 11:05 am
#854
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: AC SE100k, Marriott Titanium, UA Silver
Posts: 2,648
Nov 10, 2020, 11:16 am
#855
Join Date: May 2020
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE, AA PlatPro, Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Plat & LT Gold, Hilton Gold, National EE
Posts: 878
Does everyone E35k + get Base priority rewards regardless of AQD spend? Thought they made that exception during one of their press releases.
Last edited by Adam Smith; Jun 23, 2021 at 12:39 am Reason: Merge consecutive posts by same user