Aug 12, 2020, 12:02 am
Last edit by: Adam Smith
You must call in for stopovers, multi-city, or complicated routings, until the new booking system launches in 2021.
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
- SE IKK redemption from the old program can be changed ("within reason") without repricing. Dates, routings, no problem. Origin/destination should be fine. But nothing that would have required a repricing under the old program. This is from Mark Nasr in https://www.facebook.com/pointsmiles...44878252851420
- The "Activity" page only shows you the most recent ~48 transactions. See this post for information on how to get older data.
- A partial refund may not be possible (e.g. if you book RT and outbound flight is cancelled by you or AC, to delete the first flight segment, you have to cancel the entire ticket and rebook the inbound at a potentially higher fare. It seems supervisor can grant exceptions.)
2020 Air Canada Aeroplan Program
Nov 4, 2020, 10:34 am
#691
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 232
Been living under a rock, booked 2 Js to US. Anything I need to do for new AP?
Hey guys,
Ever since the lockdown I’ve had most of my travel emails muted and pretty ashamed to admit that I had no idea about the new AP.
I just booked 2 tickets (J) last night to visit some family in US (from Canada) 2 weeks from now using the AC app. This morning I opened the app again and that’s when I found out about the new AP.
I’m not 100% sure about the new AP, but would there be any benefit for me (in terms of point/status collection) if I canceled those tickets and booked them again once the new program launches?
Apologies in advance if I’m asking something that’s either irrelevant or been asked multiple times before.
Ever since the lockdown I’ve had most of my travel emails muted and pretty ashamed to admit that I had no idea about the new AP.
I just booked 2 tickets (J) last night to visit some family in US (from Canada) 2 weeks from now using the AC app. This morning I opened the app again and that’s when I found out about the new AP.
I’m not 100% sure about the new AP, but would there be any benefit for me (in terms of point/status collection) if I canceled those tickets and booked them again once the new program launches?
Apologies in advance if I’m asking something that’s either irrelevant or been asked multiple times before.
Nov 4, 2020, 10:54 am
#692
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,779
I just booked 2 tickets (J) last night to visit some family in US (from Canada) 2 weeks from now using the AC app. This morning I opened the app again and that’s when I found out about the new AP.
I’m not 100% sure about the new AP, but would there be any benefit for me (in terms of point/status collection) if I canceled those tickets and booked them again once the new program launches?
I’m not 100% sure about the new AP, but would there be any benefit for me (in terms of point/status collection) if I canceled those tickets and booked them again once the new program launches?
Nov 4, 2020, 10:58 am
#693
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,354
If the tickets were booked in the AC app, they weren't booked with points.
In that case, there's no known benefit to waiting until the 8th.
In that case, there's no known benefit to waiting until the 8th.
Nov 4, 2020, 11:07 am
#694
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 232
Thankfully, there's a very lengthy thread where you can read all about it (what we know so far, anyway, which is not everything)
Other than a potential change in the price of the tickets after the new program launches, there's no difference. Since Aeroplan has free cancellation for all tickets until the end of this year, you can just wait and see what the pricing looks like once the switch happens. If you paid 50K points and can now book it for 45K, cancel and re-book. If it's the same points but lower surcharges (YQ will be gone, and it appears you don't have any AC status), cancel and re-book. If it costs a lot more points, leave it as-is. If it costs slightly more points but the surcharges are lower, up to you to determine whether you're getting enough value.
Other than a potential change in the price of the tickets after the new program launches, there's no difference. Since Aeroplan has free cancellation for all tickets until the end of this year, you can just wait and see what the pricing looks like once the switch happens. If you paid 50K points and can now book it for 45K, cancel and re-book. If it's the same points but lower surcharges (YQ will be gone, and it appears you don't have any AC status), cancel and re-book. If it costs a lot more points, leave it as-is. If it costs slightly more points but the surcharges are lower, up to you to determine whether you're getting enough value.
From the looks of it, doesn’t seem like it’d make any difference if i cancel and rebook it under the new plan then. thanks again.
Nov 4, 2020, 3:44 pm
#695
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: YCM
Programs: Aeroplan, Marriot, Hilton, IHG, P25K
Posts: 129
Unsure if this is the right place to ask but here it goes.
With November 8 rapidly approaching, I have noticed TD is currently offering up to 50,000 miles on the current Aeroplan Infinite Privilege card as a sign up bonus as well as reduced fees for first year.
Any speculation on if this sign up offer will get better next week?
The base and mid-range card offers are not as attractive, but annual fees are correspondingly less as well.
With November 8 rapidly approaching, I have noticed TD is currently offering up to 50,000 miles on the current Aeroplan Infinite Privilege card as a sign up bonus as well as reduced fees for first year.
Any speculation on if this sign up offer will get better next week?
The base and mid-range card offers are not as attractive, but annual fees are correspondingly less as well.
Nov 5, 2020, 6:21 pm
#696
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,204
What's the distance of YUL-YHZ according to the new Aeroplan program with respect to award flight pricing ?
Distance according to various sources:
ExpertFlyer.com: 500 miles
WebFlyer.com: 499 miles
gcmap.com: 501 miles
Distance according to various sources:
ExpertFlyer.com: 500 miles
WebFlyer.com: 499 miles
gcmap.com: 501 miles
Nov 5, 2020, 7:23 pm
#697
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,734
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...an/redeem.html
Nov 6, 2020, 2:45 pm
#698
Join Date: Jun 2010
Programs: AC SE 1MM
Posts: 344
Does anyone know what time "Early Evening" means? What time are the "taps" being turned off?
Nov 6, 2020, 2:57 pm
#699
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: Only J via Peasant Points, 777HDPeasant or The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance and Narcissism.
Posts: 5,957
Nov 6, 2020, 3:45 pm
#700
Join Date: Jun 2010
Programs: AC SE 1MM
Posts: 344
And she be shutdown
Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.aeroplan.com/" on this server.Reference #18.f2af4543.1604702710.3d97d429
Nov 6, 2020, 3:55 pm
#701
Join Date: May 2020
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE, AA PlatPro, Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Plat & LT Gold, Hilton Gold, National EE
Posts: 878
Nov 6, 2020, 4:01 pm
#702
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
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Aeroplan app is crashing on launch. I uninstalled it.
Nov 6, 2020, 5:36 pm
#703
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Vancouver
Programs: AC SE100K 1MM, FB Platinum, Bonvoy Platinum Elite, IHG Gold Elite, Hilton Gold
Posts: 1,605
The Altitude website is gone as well.
Nov 6, 2020, 5:40 pm
#704
Moderator, Air Canada; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE MM, FB Plat, WS Plat, BA Silver, DL GM, Marriott Plat, Hilton Gold, Accor Silver
Posts: 16,779
Nov 6, 2020, 5:50 pm
#705
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The message I received was:
**** [four letter word, all uppercase]
I forgot to book YHZ and just thought of it
I was operating under the assumption it would be down no later than end of business eastern time, and did a final availability search around 1600 (didn't have what I wanted).