Aug 12, 2020, 12:02 am
Last edit by: Adam Smith
You must call in for stopovers, multi-city, or complicated routings, until the new booking system launches in 2021.
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
- SE IKK redemption from the old program can be changed ("within reason") without repricing. Dates, routings, no problem. Origin/destination should be fine. But nothing that would have required a repricing under the old program. This is from Mark Nasr in https://www.facebook.com/pointsmiles...44878252851420
- The "Activity" page only shows you the most recent ~48 transactions. See this post for information on how to get older data.
- A partial refund may not be possible (e.g. if you book RT and outbound flight is cancelled by you or AC, to delete the first flight segment, you have to cancel the entire ticket and rebook the inbound at a potentially higher fare. It seems supervisor can grant exceptions.)
2020 Air Canada Aeroplan Program
Nov 6, 2020, 5:50 pm
#706
Join Date: May 2020
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE, AA PlatPro, Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Plat & LT Gold, Hilton Gold, National EE
Posts: 878
They initially said "early afternoon" on Nov 6 which was 1pm then when I called in they said they pushed it back to 5pm EST. They didn't update the website either...
Nov 6, 2020, 6:00 pm
#707
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: USA
Programs: AC SE100K, F9 100k, NK Gold, UA *S, Hyatt Glob, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 5,202
Last credit card authorization came thru at 5:03pm EST. I imagine the beer cart has rolled out at the Aeroplan office. At minimum the call center that works till midnight must get to go home early today.
If we call Aeroplan now, will the message say please book another carrier in the meantime until we relaunch the site?
Nov 6, 2020, 6:06 pm
#708
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Ontario Canada
Programs: Air Canada 50K - Hilton Diamond - Marriott Platinum
Posts: 283
RIP AEROPLAN and ALTITUDE
Nov 6, 2020, 6:09 pm
#709
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,312
Absolutely. What a great credit card program Aeroplan was.
Lets not forget the many "promos" over the years - the 30k anywhere in the world in J "promo", the J for Y price "promo", the get to Turkey/China for 25k in J ongoing promo....
And all those, no YQ, 120k RTWs with like 8 segments in F....
Good times Aeroplan.
Lets not forget the many "promos" over the years - the 30k anywhere in the world in J "promo", the J for Y price "promo", the get to Turkey/China for 25k in J ongoing promo....
And all those, no YQ, 120k RTWs with like 8 segments in F....
Good times Aeroplan.
Nov 6, 2020, 6:45 pm
#710
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE MM, BW Diamond Select
Posts: 706
I'm debating as to whether to cancel my Amex Aeroplan Platinum card for an RBC Westjet or Avion Infinite card. Amex was offering me $125 statement credit to remain their customer, but I still have until December to decide.
I was going to apply for the current TD Aeroplan Visa with 25K welcome bonus, but hopefully there will be a flurry of competing offers from different banks hoping to lure people to their respective program.
I was going to apply for the current TD Aeroplan Visa with 25K welcome bonus, but hopefully there will be a flurry of competing offers from different banks hoping to lure people to their respective program.
Nov 6, 2020, 7:56 pm
#711
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,204
Alright guys. Now that the page has turned, time to confess and tell about the glitches or loopholes you learned about back in the old Aeroplan whether you exploited them or not.
Were those glitches or real promos
Absolutely. What a great credit card program Aeroplan was.
Lets not forget the many "promos" over the years - the 30k anywhere in the world in J "promo", the J for Y price "promo", the get to Turkey/China for 25k in J ongoing promo....
And all those, no YQ, 120k RTWs with like 8 segments in F....
Good times Aeroplan.
Lets not forget the many "promos" over the years - the 30k anywhere in the world in J "promo", the J for Y price "promo", the get to Turkey/China for 25k in J ongoing promo....
And all those, no YQ, 120k RTWs with like 8 segments in F....
Good times Aeroplan.
Nov 6, 2020, 7:58 pm
#712
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Ontario Canada
Programs: Air Canada 50K - Hilton Diamond - Marriott Platinum
Posts: 283
that Chinese airport that had a old Canadian Y code? ok never used it but it did exist at one point
Nov 6, 2020, 8:12 pm
#713
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,354
Nov 6, 2020, 8:17 pm
#714
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Canada
Programs: UA*1K MM SK EBG LATAM BL
Posts: 23,312
It was pricing the whole itinerary for the amount of the first stopover I believe
I remember flying HKG to RIO for 30k roundtrip
There was also one in 2011 What happens when... where Aeroplan was pricing all business awards as economy and even phone agents were booking it that way, and it lasted quite a while, because I know lots of friends and family took advantage of this one.
That and a dozen miscoded airports in Turkey, China, New Zealand, Africa....
Edit: Didnt take advantage of this one, but J for the price of PY on the app was a recent one as well
Last edited by rankourabu; Nov 6, 2020 at 8:25 pm
Nov 6, 2020, 8:33 pm
#715
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: YVR
Programs: AE
Posts: 862
There was also one in 2011 What happens when... where Aeroplan was pricing all business awards as economy and even phone agents were booking it that way, and it lasted quite a while, because I know lots of friends and family took advantage of this one.
Nov 6, 2020, 9:48 pm
#716
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: YYZ
Programs: Aeroplan 50K/Star Alliance Gold, Accor Gold, base level Marriott/Hyatt/Hilton
Posts: 658
Just logged into Aeroplan and Altitude a few hours ago to say goodbye. It's the end of an era and it sucked leaving behind something tied to so many memories. Now enough with the sentimentality, the new program seems excellent for my purposes and I can't wait to see the full details on Sunday.
Nov 6, 2020, 10:56 pm
#717
Join Date: May 2020
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE, AA PlatPro, Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Plat & LT Gold, Hilton Gold, National EE
Posts: 878
I'm debating as to whether to cancel my Amex Aeroplan Platinum card for an RBC Westjet or Avion Infinite card. Amex was offering me $125 statement credit to remain their customer, but I still have until December to decide.
I was going to apply for the current TD Aeroplan Visa with 25K welcome bonus, but hopefully there will be a flurry of competing offers from different banks hoping to lure people to their respective program.
I was going to apply for the current TD Aeroplan Visa with 25K welcome bonus, but hopefully there will be a flurry of competing offers from different banks hoping to lure people to their respective program.
If you want to apply for the TD Aeroplan VI get it now if you value the points, otherwise as per leaks the bonus goes down to 10k but you do get a "buddy pass" which is good for anything in North America (including HI and Mexico) for any Y fare class including comfort and flex (no base fare!) you just have to pay the taxes and fees.
Q1/2 2021 should have better bonuses.
Nov 6, 2020, 11:05 pm
#718
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: USA
Programs: AA Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 311
RIP Aeroplan. You will be missed. Truly an end of an era.
Nov 7, 2020, 3:31 am
#719
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: YOW
Programs: AC-SE100K, AC-3MM, Marriott- LT Titanium, SPG RIP
Posts: 2,959
Nov 7, 2020, 6:22 pm
#720
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: Only J via Peasant Points, 777HDPeasant or The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance and Narcissism.
Posts: 5,956
Official: launch delayed to November 9. Not looking too hot thus far.