Aug 12, 2020, 12:02 am
Last edit by: Adam Smith
You must call in for stopovers, multi-city, or complicated routings, until the new booking system launches in 2021.
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
I hope others will significantly improve this wiki!
There are four zones: North America (inc Central), South America, Atlantic (including India and Western Russia), Pacific (inc Eastern Russia) and the chart is based which one you start from and which one you end up in, there's ten of these.
Cost is based on distance, which zone pair your flight is in, which class you are flying in.
Partner airlines (again) are a better deal because while Air Canada will calculate cost on a wide ranges but partner airlines are fixed to the bottom of the range.
YQ is eliminated. There's a 39 CAD fee for booking a ticket which contains a flight on a partner airline. Aside from this, there's no incentive any more to book a return flight it seems and every incentive not to.
Note: The partner booking fee is refundable, so it's basically a YQ, rather than a booking fee.
Most flights are devalued. However, the elimination of YQ sweetens this significantly. Within North America, a lot of flights became cheaper, YVR-HNL very significantly. YVR-TYO is much cheaper while YVR-AKL is a little cheaper.
A vastly more powerful booking system is promised for 2021.
There are a lot of new tricks to be learned. https://princeoftravel.com/blog/new-aeroplan-flight-rewards/ is a good start.
Information that is harder to find:
- SE IKK redemption from the old program can be changed ("within reason") without repricing. Dates, routings, no problem. Origin/destination should be fine. But nothing that would have required a repricing under the old program. This is from Mark Nasr in https://www.facebook.com/pointsmiles...44878252851420
- The "Activity" page only shows you the most recent ~48 transactions. See this post for information on how to get older data.
- A partial refund may not be possible (e.g. if you book RT and outbound flight is cancelled by you or AC, to delete the first flight segment, you have to cancel the entire ticket and rebook the inbound at a potentially higher fare. It seems supervisor can grant exceptions.)
2020 Air Canada Aeroplan Program
Nov 9, 2020, 10:25 am
#766
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,354
I was able to log in and force myself into the dashboard with this link
https://www.aircanada.com/aeroplan/member/dashboard
https://www.aircanada.com/aeroplan/member/dashboard
Nov 9, 2020, 10:26 am
#767
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 188
I managed to log in using the link at the bottom of the page.
Nov 9, 2020, 10:30 am
#768
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: USA
Programs: AC SE100K, F9 100k, NK Gold, UA *S, Hyatt Glob, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 5,207
edit: it's ALIVE!
My 10 priority awards expiring 2/28/2021 have been replaced with 4 half-off priority awards expiring 10/25/2021. Can't even book them a full benefit year?
Million miler progress towards goal is more prominently displayed.
Eup total seems correct and 2019 earning data on tab seems correct.
My 10 priority awards expiring 2/28/2021 have been replaced with 4 half-off priority awards expiring 10/25/2021. Can't even book them a full benefit year?
Million miler progress towards goal is more prominently displayed.
Eup total seems correct and 2019 earning data on tab seems correct.
Last edited by expert7700; Nov 9, 2020 at 10:37 am
Nov 9, 2020, 10:32 am
#769
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: TK Elite Plus, IC Plat Ambassador, HH Diamond
Posts: 921
Nov 9, 2020, 10:34 am
#770
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: Only J via Peasant Points, 777HDPeasant or The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance and Narcissism.
Posts: 5,957
Nov 9, 2020, 10:35 am
#771
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,734
Second projected launch time? (I believe it only moved once so far from Nov 8 to 9 - maybe I am incorrect though)
When I go on the website it still says Noon November 9. https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...migration.html
When I go on the website it still says Noon November 9. https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...migration.html
Nov 9, 2020, 10:38 am
#772
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Delta, BC
Posts: 1,646
Aeroplan/Air Canada and getting IT transitions seamlessly executed and fully functioning - better chances at the casino.
Yes, I can log-in, but many broken links and nothing really working yet other than basic account home page, which I can't actually find my way back to at the moment.
Yes, I can log-in, but many broken links and nothing really working yet other than basic account home page, which I can't actually find my way back to at the moment.
Nov 9, 2020, 11:00 am
#773
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE 2MM; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy LT Titanium Elite; Radisson; Avis PC
Posts: 35,255
So this is interesting. Status page still shows 95 SQS as being the magic number for Super Elite qualification, as opposed to the 100 that was previously announced. I'm not sure if this is a website issue, or if Air Canada reverted to the old qualification standard.
(P.S. Please don't judge the number – it's been a slow year).
(P.S. Please don't judge the number – it's been a slow year).
Air Canada Aeroplan: The Ultimate Guide
It’s not often that those of us in the points and miles world get a wholly new program, but 2020 is providing a rare bright spot. On November 8, 2020, the new Aeroplan mileage and elite status program will take effect. There are a lot of details of the new program to cover, so let’s dive right in.
It’s not often that those of us in the points and miles world get a wholly new program, but 2020 is providing a rare bright spot. On November 8, 2020, the new Aeroplan mileage and elite status program will take effect. There are a lot of details of the new program to cover, so let’s dive right in.
Nov 9, 2020, 11:17 am
#774
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: YOW
Programs: AC SE, FOTSG Platinum
Posts: 5,734
This is a mess. You can log in, but you can't. It shows your mileage levels and bookings, then it doesn't.
Also, beware that the "Cancel booking" button currently takes you to the "are you sure" page, auto-clicks Submit, and completes the cancellation. At least it just did for me, in Mac Safari. Glad I actually meant to cancel that booking.
Also, beware that the "Cancel booking" button currently takes you to the "are you sure" page, auto-clicks Submit, and completes the cancellation. At least it just did for me, in Mac Safari. Glad I actually meant to cancel that booking.
Nov 9, 2020, 11:27 am
#775
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: YUL
Programs: AC E75, WS Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, GHA Plat, UA Silver, SQ Silver
Posts: 215
Initial impressions - Not rewriting again (so plugging the reddit link)
TL;DR - its working if you are creative in playing around with the website, can book flights also. I will be updating the below reddit posts as I explore more.
https://www.reddit.com/r/churningcan...ons_mixed_bag/
Edit: 1:33 PM EST - AP is fully LIVE
TL;DR - its working if you are creative in playing around with the website, can book flights also. I will be updating the below reddit posts as I explore more.
https://www.reddit.com/r/churningcan...ons_mixed_bag/
Edit: 1:33 PM EST - AP is fully LIVE
Last edited by jugaadkabaap; Nov 9, 2020 at 11:34 am
Nov 9, 2020, 11:48 am
#776
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE MM, BA Gold, SQ Silver, Bonvoy Tit LTG, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond
Posts: 44,354
The business lowest to business flexible redemption price increase seems to only be about 10k miles for me, but I see no indication of SS access (it explicitly says "Access to Maple Leaf Lounges"), though I don't know if I've seen any official communication on that, just bloggers saying "they said it at the event".
But I'd spend 10k miles for SS access.
But I'd spend 10k miles for SS access.
Nov 9, 2020, 11:54 am
#777
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE100K, Bonvoy Platinum Elite, IHG Gold, Hertz 5*
Posts: 2,132
I have seemingly full functionality.
I have cross-checked 3 existing redemptions and it looks like all 3 would cost me about 10% more points today than previously. I also see that a free bag is not included in the "standard redemption". That's...different.
I have cross-checked 3 existing redemptions and it looks like all 3 would cost me about 10% more points today than previously. I also see that a free bag is not included in the "standard redemption". That's...different.
Nov 9, 2020, 11:58 am
#778
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Canada
Programs: AC SE 2MM, HH Dd, SPG; IC Pl/A; AA; DL
Posts: 14,324
Agreed that it is sort of working. Getting to my flight passes from my account didn't work but did work from a secondary flight pass page, not the main booking page. Still links that don't work and buggy but finding my way through. At least I have a few covid filled months before I really need to use it.
I like the one stop shopping again (how long has it been?), including eupgrades, rewards, paid bookings and business program links without logging in every time.
I like the one stop shopping again (how long has it been?), including eupgrades, rewards, paid bookings and business program links without logging in every time.
Nov 9, 2020, 12:05 pm
#779
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 201
Anybody know when the Aeroplan eStore will be back up again?
Nov 9, 2020, 12:42 pm
#780
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: USA
Programs: AC SE100K, F9 100k, NK Gold, UA *S, Hyatt Glob, Bonvoy Titanium
Posts: 5,207
curiius about trip with zero AC segments (that they don't even sell for $).
are trips such as one way fra-lhr or one way ist-dxb bookable online now?
I can check when I am back near a PC. I gave been curious how they'd enable this. perhaps they appear if book with points is selected in the slider then disappear when cash is selected
are trips such as one way fra-lhr or one way ist-dxb bookable online now?
I can check when I am back near a PC. I gave been curious how they'd enable this. perhaps they appear if book with points is selected in the slider then disappear when cash is selected