Important changes to the Aeroplan program (2015)
Sep 30, 2015 | 6:10 pm
#227
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Toronto, Canada
Programs: Aeroplan, Bonvoy, Alaska, Avios
Posts: 1,295
Depends. My awards go unchanged and with the depreciation of the CDN dollar, they did go up. I'm not stupid enough to realize this won't always be the case but I'm safe for 12-18 months.
In the meantime I'm snagging as many free AeroMarks as possible.
In the meantime I'm snagging as many free AeroMarks as possible.
Sep 30, 2015 | 10:14 pm
#228
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: aeroplan
Posts: 280
Beware Dec. 15th?
I agree, this really is the big question. Spend 105,000 points now on UK to Thailand, then change a date or flight after Dec. 15th, and find out you need another 45,000 points to do so? Surely the AC/ Aeroplan folks monitoring this forum can answer this now?
Sep 30, 2015 | 10:18 pm
#229
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 18,133
I dont think there's anyone from Aeroplan here lol.
Oct 1, 2015 | 12:24 am
#230
Formerly known as newbie elite
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,517
Not that it matters because, hey, let's not let facts get in the way of the Kool-Aid but when inflation was in the double digits (which is nothing compared to these increases), the $$$ in your bank account sure went up because interest rates were high, even on bank accounts. Now those dollars were worth less but they still went up.
Can't wait to see what red herring you pull out next...
Can't wait to see what red herring you pull out next...
Oct 1, 2015 | 12:16 pm
#231
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 43
The good news:
We will now be able to book one-way flights in any region.
The bad news:
They're tackling a lot of chart sweet spots in J/F. At least we get ~50 days notice.
https://www4.aeroplan.com/static/pdf...s-Chart-en.pdf
Canada to Europe 1 in J +20,000 in F +15,000
Europe 1 to Africa in J +20,000
Europe 1 to Australia in J +55,000
Business and First Class within Asia 1 is doubling... 30,000 -> 80,000 and 50,000 -> 110,000
Hawaii to Asia +75,000
Glad I just booked my Europe 1 to Hawaii... going up 40,000 in J too.
Region changes... the Asia ones suck for me:
- Poland moved into Europe 2
- Luxembourg moved into Europe 1
- Mongolia & Eastern Russia moved into Asia 1
- Singapore, Thailand, and Vietnam moved into Asia 2 (damnit!)
We will now be able to book one-way flights in any region.
The bad news:
They're tackling a lot of chart sweet spots in J/F. At least we get ~50 days notice.
https://www4.aeroplan.com/static/pdf...s-Chart-en.pdf
Canada to Europe 1 in J +20,000 in F +15,000
Europe 1 to Africa in J +20,000
Europe 1 to Australia in J +55,000
Business and First Class within Asia 1 is doubling... 30,000 -> 80,000 and 50,000 -> 110,000
Hawaii to Asia +75,000
Glad I just booked my Europe 1 to Hawaii... going up 40,000 in J too.
Region changes... the Asia ones suck for me:
- Poland moved into Europe 2
- Luxembourg moved into Europe 1
- Mongolia & Eastern Russia moved into Asia 1
- Singapore, Thailand, and Vietnam moved into Asia 2 (damnit!)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byg...ew?usp=sharing
What a joke I knew it was going to happen when TD got on the aeroplan bandwagon...
Oct 1, 2015 | 1:15 pm
#232
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I drafted up an excel sheet to show the differences.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byg...ew?usp=sharing
What a joke I knew it was going to happen when TD got on the aeroplan bandwagon...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byg...ew?usp=sharing
What a joke I knew it was going to happen when TD got on the aeroplan bandwagon...
Excellent, thanks!
Oct 1, 2015 | 2:36 pm
#233
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: AC SE, SPG Lifetime Plat, ACMM
Posts: 3,535
There is another change that is creeping in slowly----I was looking for NRT-YYC in Feb. It routed me ( priority awards) NRT-YVR-YYC with the NRT-YVR in Y and YVR-YYC in J but full J award redemption cost. The flight has 60% seats open according to the chart. AP is doing this more and more. If I were to do something like this I will fall afoul of laws but AP keeps getting away with this. (Of course I can pay 967000 mies and get a market fare seat but I refuse to do this as I think that is a bigger rip off!)
Oct 1, 2015 | 3:29 pm
#234
Join Date: Sep 2013
Programs: AC SE100K, AA EXP, SPG Plt, HH Dmnd
Posts: 1,509
There is another change that is creeping in slowly----I was looking for NRT-YYC in Feb. It routed me ( priority awards) NRT-YVR-YYC with the NRT-YVR in Y and YVR-YYC in J but full J award redemption cost. The flight has 60% seats open according to the chart. AP is doing this more and more. If I were to do something like this I will fall afoul of laws but AP keeps getting away with this. (Of course I can pay 967000 mies and get a market fare seat but I refuse to do this as I think that is a bigger rip off!)
Oct 1, 2015 | 5:06 pm
#235
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*SE 2MM, Asia Miles, SPG Gold (life), HH Gold, Golden Circle Jade
Posts: 1,068
80K Aeroplan miles? Lol no, try more like 110K Aeroplan miles maybe.
Air China does not have "Business Class" within China even though the plane is really a 2 class aircraft but you will still have to pay for "First Class" regardless and that will be 110K miles, thank you very much.
Ridiculous? Yes, it is. Does Aeroplan care? Non, absolutely not. As far Aeroplan is concerned, we are just a bunch of crazies talking on the internet that has no resemblance to its actual customer base. In the mind of Aeroplan executives, their customers are the most docile, gullible and simplest persons ever - just put a TV ad here and there, voil! No need to even disclose the kind offees uh... "taxes" (within the published award charts) they are expected to pay in order to try to redeem their miles. Oh and they expire within just a year if you bank there for more than 365 days without touching them even though no other well known FFP have such anti-consumer policy. Gotta love the shortermism of these executives, because if there is any problem within 3-4 years, it will be someone else's problems, not theirs because by then, they will already off the plane with their golden parachute.
Air China does not have "Business Class" within China even though the plane is really a 2 class aircraft but you will still have to pay for "First Class" regardless and that will be 110K miles, thank you very much.
Ridiculous? Yes, it is. Does Aeroplan care? Non, absolutely not. As far Aeroplan is concerned, we are just a bunch of crazies talking on the internet that has no resemblance to its actual customer base. In the mind of Aeroplan executives, their customers are the most docile, gullible and simplest persons ever - just put a TV ad here and there, voil! No need to even disclose the kind of
Oct 1, 2015 | 5:12 pm
#236
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: YYC
Posts: 25,044
Mostly domestic legs of international flights. We once flew PVG-PEK on a decrepit A340 in business for just a tad more than Y. BTW food and wine were pretty bad. But than same is true of F on two class planes.
Reminded me of Belavia.
Reminded me of Belavia.
Oct 1, 2015 | 6:33 pm
#237
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: YQB
Programs: AC SE100K-1MM, Bonvoy Gold, HHonors Diamond, VIA Premier, NEXUS/GE
Posts: 825
I drafted up an excel sheet to show the differences.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byg...ew?usp=sharing
What a joke I knew it was going to happen when TD got on the aeroplan bandwagon...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Byg...ew?usp=sharing
What a joke I knew it was going to happen when TD got on the aeroplan bandwagon...
Thank you for sharing it.
A lot of "red" on that chart, with big numbers
Oct 1, 2015 | 7:37 pm
#238
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: YYZ
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Posts: 18,476
Unfortunately, Air China is probably the worst of the major Chinese carriers.
Oct 6, 2015 | 10:11 am
#239
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Given the upcoming changes to Aeroplan, thought you all might find these ANA changes interesting.
Effective Oct 15.
Quote:
"Nonetheless, the lack of notice to members is disconcerting."
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....es-october-15/
Effective Oct 15.
Quote:
"Nonetheless, the lack of notice to members is disconcerting."
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....es-october-15/
Oct 9, 2015 | 7:50 am
#240
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: トロント
Programs: IHG Platinum
Posts: 4,856
So this means that intra-Japan flights will go from 20K to 40K?
That's completely insane. Not to mention they can't even book intra-Japan online (because taxes are $0) so any reservation requires a call into the call center, and arguing with agents for an hour that the $30 fee should be waived.
That's completely insane. Not to mention they can't even book intra-Japan online (because taxes are $0) so any reservation requires a call into the call center, and arguing with agents for an hour that the $30 fee should be waived.
Not really sure an intra-Japan flight is even worth 4500 Avios miles when I can book the same thing (HND-OIT) for 10,800 yen on ANA experience Japan fare.