Comments on 777HD HKG-YVR - EPIC FAIL
Feb 16, 2016, 8:53 pm
#2356
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Sorry, but I'd rather just stick to normal Y and possibly score an empty seat beside me.
Also notice some of the mainland China carriers are starting to up their game at similar prices...
Feb 16, 2016, 8:59 pm
#2357
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Yeah, but consider that they offer preferred (not sure by who after sitting in one) at roughly $10/hour each way. Are they telling me that PY is worth an additional say $50/hour on top of that? That a single higher end meal (that cost them $10 more) and a slightly larger screen is worth the additional $600?
Sorry, but I'd rather just stick to normal Y and possibly score an empty seat beside me.
Also notice some of the mainland China carriers are starting to up their game at similar prices...
Sorry, but I'd rather just stick to normal Y and possibly score an empty seat beside me.
Also notice some of the mainland China carriers are starting to up their game at similar prices...
I never cared that much for price difference, now that AC have trashed long haul, I think I am.
Feb 16, 2016, 9:05 pm
#2358
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Slipped my mind, but sometimes CX also has some surprise sales that rival AC on those routes. Not often, but they do.
Feb 16, 2016, 9:10 pm
#2359
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How ironic we live in a world where bags flies free on south west, but not on NA main lines
Feb 16, 2016, 9:46 pm
#2360
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I think 10 is the absolute threshold and there is no way AC can attempt to make it any smaller. So I guess this is it, this is as awful its going to get in the Y Cabin.Legroom wise another inch or two reduction is coming. But I think there will come a time when the superior product wins when it comes to loads. Funny thing is since street cares a lot about load factor(which will bite AC in its arse at some point)
And I think its complete BS to say that the 3 rows of 3-3-3 is not going to be filled. (It won't be filled only because AC refuse to charge proper price in relation to the product they are selling- PE on YYZ-LHR prime example)
There will be more than 10% of people on any given Flight that A) Has some kind of status B) Flies for Business
Take out the complete scam PY cabin(That we know its doing extremely poorly on some major routes because people know what its worth,How AC manage to charge that much on TPAC is puzzling), have a proper Y+ Section with 3 rows at 15% markup, no way it won't succeed. (Sigh only If its worth it for me time wise to fly to a city served by American Airlines for Y+ )
FLAME AWAY
And I think its complete BS to say that the 3 rows of 3-3-3 is not going to be filled. (It won't be filled only because AC refuse to charge proper price in relation to the product they are selling- PE on YYZ-LHR prime example)
There will be more than 10% of people on any given Flight that A) Has some kind of status B) Flies for Business
Take out the complete scam PY cabin(That we know its doing extremely poorly on some major routes because people know what its worth,How AC manage to charge that much on TPAC is puzzling), have a proper Y+ Section with 3 rows at 15% markup, no way it won't succeed. (Sigh only If its worth it for me time wise to fly to a city served by American Airlines for Y+ )
FLAME AWAY
Feb 17, 2016, 11:08 am
#2361
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Feb 17, 2016, 12:59 pm
#2362
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Boeing's recent patent application with 12 across in Business 3x3x3x3
http://www.ausbt.com.au/boeing-patents-12-across-business-class-seating
http://www.ausbt.com.au/boeing-patents-12-across-business-class-seating
Feb 17, 2016, 2:42 pm
#2363
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Boeing's recent patent application with 12 across in Business 3x3x3x3
http://www.ausbt.com.au/boeing-patents-12-across-business-class-seating
http://www.ausbt.com.au/boeing-patents-12-across-business-class-seating
I actually posted that link back last Nov or Dec, along with a hilarious design from early last year by SparseFlyer - who seemed who have a similar and equally frightening concept. I think those posts were deleted for some reason. I suggested we all take a deep breath for what the future brings (or go on a serious diet)
Feb 17, 2016, 2:44 pm
#2364
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RyanAir was trying to get approval for standing room only on their planes a few years back. I think they were trying to charge £1 to use the washroom too, neither went through afaik.
Feb 17, 2016, 3:25 pm
#2365
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That was a stupid publicity stunt, the 738 is exit limited to what Ryanair currently holds anyway.
Feb 17, 2016, 8:01 pm
#2366
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Feb 17, 2016, 8:15 pm
#2367
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I actually posted that link back last Nov or Dec, along with a hilarious design from early last year by SparseFlyer - who seemed who have a similar and equally frightening concept. I think those posts were deleted for some reason. I suggested we all take a deep breath for what the future brings (or go on a serious diet)
Or bunl beds in stacks. Lower can sit up, upper can't. Maybe that's a problem for takeoff and landing. But I'd go for flying capsule hotel style just fine. All I want to go is get in, go to sleep, and wake up on the ground.
Give me an injection. I don't need movies or food or booze. I just want to not know it's happening.
Feb 17, 2016, 8:23 pm
#2368
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I don't know why they don't try bunk beds or capsules of some sort.
Or bunl beds in stacks. Lower can sit up, upper can't. Maybe that's a problem for takeoff and landing. But I'd go for flying capsule hotel style just fine. All I want to go is get in, go to sleep, and wake up on the ground.
Give me an injection. I don't need movies or food or booze. I just want to not know it's happening.
Or bunl beds in stacks. Lower can sit up, upper can't. Maybe that's a problem for takeoff and landing. But I'd go for flying capsule hotel style just fine. All I want to go is get in, go to sleep, and wake up on the ground.
Give me an injection. I don't need movies or food or booze. I just want to not know it's happening.
Honestly,not everyone can afford the big J pods, something that is compacted, tight for TPAC would be great for those of us willing to pay 50% more than tango
Feb 17, 2016, 8:24 pm
#2369
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I don't know why they don't try bunk beds or capsules of some sort.
Or bunl beds in stacks. Lower can sit up, upper can't. Maybe that's a problem for takeoff and landing. But I'd go for flying capsule hotel style just fine. All I want to go is get in, go to sleep, and wake up on the ground.
Give me an injection. I don't need movies or food or booze. I just want to not know it's happening.
Or bunl beds in stacks. Lower can sit up, upper can't. Maybe that's a problem for takeoff and landing. But I'd go for flying capsule hotel style just fine. All I want to go is get in, go to sleep, and wake up on the ground.
Give me an injection. I don't need movies or food or booze. I just want to not know it's happening.
Feb 17, 2016, 9:33 pm
#2370
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I don't know why they don't try bunk beds or capsules of some sort.
Or bunl beds in stacks. Lower can sit up, upper can't. Maybe that's a problem for takeoff and landing. But I'd go for flying capsule hotel style just fine. All I want to go is get in, go to sleep, and wake up on the ground.......
Or bunl beds in stacks. Lower can sit up, upper can't. Maybe that's a problem for takeoff and landing. But I'd go for flying capsule hotel style just fine. All I want to go is get in, go to sleep, and wake up on the ground.......
Well, last year, I had also suggested lap seating. I think it was about the time everyone was freaking out over Scrouge seating (as opposed to the current enemy, the 77HD).
I imagined all the extra pax that could be loaded, and with lap seating, money saved on IFE because what's in your lap IS the IFE. LOL
Still, I think we all know that these HD birds serve a purpose. Those of us who know about it or have already experienced it, can either avoid it or not.
Time vs money vs sanity. Spin the wheel, throw a dart, but really, other than patent applications for new forms of flying hell, none of it is going away.
Reality bites.