Comments on 777HD HKG-YVR - EPIC FAIL
Sep 1, 2016, 9:13 am
#2448
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CX beginning March is adding 3x weekly frequencies on the A350-900 YVRHKG (now 17x/week). Interesting to see them expanding against AC's 450 seat 77Ws.
I believe this is the first example of another carrier increasing capacity on any route competing against the 777HD?
I believe this is the first example of another carrier increasing capacity on any route competing against the 777HD?
Sep 1, 2016, 9:32 am
#2449
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CX beginning March is adding 3x weekly frequencies on the A350-900 YVRHKG (now 17x/week). Interesting to see them expanding against AC's 450 seat 77Ws.
I believe this is the first example of another carrier increasing capacity on any route competing against the 777HD?
I believe this is the first example of another carrier increasing capacity on any route competing against the 777HD?
Please lord let the stupid consumers will realize CX Y is far superior than the garbage Y on AC 777HD.. Maybe I will even take out some Google Ads advertise that. Even taking one consumer away from AC is a victory.
Maybe CX will decide whether to become evil with 10 Abreast 777 or not based off competition performance vs AC on this route. They are already testing HD seats much to my disappointment.
I hope my thesis is right.. price is not everything in the long term and once Oil price comes back these carriers would find themselves choking on all of this extra capacity.
Last edited by Jumper Jack; Sep 1, 2016 at 9:37 am
Sep 1, 2016, 9:43 am
#2450
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But the A350's fuel burn probably allows it to have a similar CASM to AC's 77W which is why it's on the route. And luckily for us 3*+ airlines cannot seriously consider 10-abreast A350s to be an option. That would be as unpopular as the few 8-abreast 767s/9-abreast A330s flying around.
The A350 is a consumers best friend vs 787/777. Hopefully CX deploys them to more North American destinations.
Sep 1, 2016, 10:01 am
#2451
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CX going 10-abreast 777 is inevitable, just get used to that now. Airlines worldwide switching to 10-abreast have all done the math and it makes sense, Y travellers are cheap.
But the A350's fuel burn probably allows it to have a similar CASM to AC's 77W which is why it's on the route. And luckily for us 3*+ airlines cannot seriously consider 10-abreast A350s to be an option. That would be as unpopular as the few 8-abreast 767s/9-abreast A330s flying around.
The A350 is a consumers best friend vs 787/777. Hopefully CX deploys them to more North American destinations.
But the A350's fuel burn probably allows it to have a similar CASM to AC's 77W which is why it's on the route. And luckily for us 3*+ airlines cannot seriously consider 10-abreast A350s to be an option. That would be as unpopular as the few 8-abreast 767s/9-abreast A330s flying around.
The A350 is a consumers best friend vs 787/777. Hopefully CX deploys them to more North American destinations.
Atleast now I have the choice of JAL 787 via NRT or CX A350 via HKG on my way to PEK or PVG next summer. So I am somewhat happy.
Sep 1, 2016, 7:07 pm
#2452
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Location: YVR
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777X will put an end to this debate as it will support 10 abreast with 18" seat width.
Sep 1, 2016, 8:09 pm
#2454
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CX beginning March is adding 3x weekly frequencies on the A350-900 YVRHKG (now 17x/week). Interesting to see them expanding against AC's 450 seat 77Ws.
I believe this is the first example of another carrier increasing capacity on any route competing against the 777HD?
I believe this is the first example of another carrier increasing capacity on any route competing against the 777HD?
Funny you mention that
A fellow AC FTer just shared this fantastic bit of today's news:
"Cathay Pacific boosts frequency of Vancouver to Hong Kong flights"
QUOTES:
"Cathay Pacific announced today that it will increase its weekly flights from YVR to Hong Kong International Airport from 14 flights two flights per day to 17 flights. Altogether, this represents an additional 87,360 seats into YVR.
The frequency increase will begin in April 2017 and utilize the new state-of-the-art Airbus A350-900 aircraft, which features....."
Full article here
http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/catha...g-kong-flights
So, shall the speculation begin...will AC make changes or is the 77 HD the only way to serve that route?
Sep 1, 2016, 8:10 pm
#2455
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Funny you mention that
A fellow AC FTer just shared this fantastic bit of today's news:
"Cathay Pacific boosts frequency of Vancouver to Hong Kong flights"
QUOTES:
"Cathay Pacific announced today that it will increase its weekly flights from YVR to Hong Kong International Airport from 14 flights – two flights per day – to 17 flights. Altogether, this represents an additional 87,360 seats into YVR.
The frequency increase will begin in April 2017 and utilize the new state-of-the-art Airbus A350-900 aircraft, which features....."
Full article here
http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/catha...g-kong-flights
So, shall the speculation begin...will AC make changes or is the 77 HD the only way to serve that route?
A fellow AC FTer just shared this fantastic bit of today's news:
"Cathay Pacific boosts frequency of Vancouver to Hong Kong flights"
QUOTES:
"Cathay Pacific announced today that it will increase its weekly flights from YVR to Hong Kong International Airport from 14 flights – two flights per day – to 17 flights. Altogether, this represents an additional 87,360 seats into YVR.
The frequency increase will begin in April 2017 and utilize the new state-of-the-art Airbus A350-900 aircraft, which features....."
Full article here
http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/catha...g-kong-flights
So, shall the speculation begin...will AC make changes or is the 77 HD the only way to serve that route?
Add a 789 or 788? Meh....
Do keep in mind China Eastern added two times daily out of YVR this summer and all AC did was making 788 to 777HD
Sep 2, 2016, 9:45 am
#2456
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Sep 2, 2016, 10:53 am
#2457
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Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Have to fly to Europe in a few weeks. Since I've now hit Gold on United, I thought I'd give AC a shot again as I'm not scrambling for qualifying miles.
However, as soon as as I saw the YVR-LHR route was the High-Density bird I booked United instead, even though I have a stop along the way.
However, as soon as as I saw the YVR-LHR route was the High-Density bird I booked United instead, even though I have a stop along the way.
Sep 2, 2016, 10:55 am
#2458
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: AC SE100k, Marriott Titanium, UA Silver
Posts: 2,651
Funny you mention that
A fellow AC FTer just shared this fantastic bit of today's news:
"Cathay Pacific boosts frequency of Vancouver to Hong Kong flights"
QUOTES:
"Cathay Pacific announced today that it will increase its weekly flights from YVR to Hong Kong International Airport from 14 flights two flights per day to 17 flights. Altogether, this represents an additional 87,360 seats into YVR.
The frequency increase will begin in April 2017 and utilize the new state-of-the-art Airbus A350-900 aircraft, which features....."
Full article here
http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/catha...g-kong-flights
So, shall the speculation begin...will AC make changes or is the 77 HD the only way to serve that route?
A fellow AC FTer just shared this fantastic bit of today's news:
"Cathay Pacific boosts frequency of Vancouver to Hong Kong flights"
QUOTES:
"Cathay Pacific announced today that it will increase its weekly flights from YVR to Hong Kong International Airport from 14 flights two flights per day to 17 flights. Altogether, this represents an additional 87,360 seats into YVR.
The frequency increase will begin in April 2017 and utilize the new state-of-the-art Airbus A350-900 aircraft, which features....."
Full article here
http://dailyhive.com/vancouver/catha...g-kong-flights
So, shall the speculation begin...will AC make changes or is the 77 HD the only way to serve that route?
Sep 2, 2016, 11:02 am
#2459
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32 pitch plus 18 inch width seat that offers a much better seatback design that what AC has... which is 31 pitch(30?) with 17 or 17.3 inch width
Sep 2, 2016, 11:04 am
#2460
Join Date: Mar 2014
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