SparseFlyer

PS: Although I have not had the "chance" to fly rouge myself, I have quite a few friends that said that the rouge staff is really enjoyable.

Seat is another story though.

Clipper801

Really? I assume that you're talking about economy class.

Fare of Premium Rouge is definitely not the case when comparing to other airlines' "F" cabins. I can find F fares on DL, US/AA and UA 35% cheaper than ACr PR in January 2016.

drvannostren

Ehh...I simply don't agree with the article.

People who live downtown Vancouver are not going to drive to YXX to save $100 or maybe $200. Those are the same people IMO that aren't driving to BLI for flights to LAS. I think the YXX flight is brilliant for the right people. My sister and her family currently live in Langley. It's 20 something minutes to YXX, 40 minutes to YVR. It's a family of 4, if they wanna fly to Toronto for some reason, parking, spending less time in the car, price are all factors that'll definitely lead them to a Rouge flight from YXX. It's perfect for them and if the prices are good then that's awesome. I don't see that as diluting, I just see it as options. NY has LGA/JFK/EWR, people fly to all of them for different reasons. There's no reason YXX can't have the small presence WS has and then add some Rouge flights.

I think the author doesn't give passengers enough credit. I think most infrequent fliers turn into idiots when they get to the airport. Don't mean to be insulting, but when someone asks where US check-in is as they stand under a sign with a US flag pointing left...But I don't think a passenger is going to buy a LGW ticket thinking it's Heathrow, or buy a Rouge flight to LGW thinking they'll be sitting pretty in mainline J. If they do, then they're just not thinking straight. The biggest follie to come out of confusion I think would be if AC starts booking connections LGW/LHR-outward. I don't think they'll be doing that, because it's fraught with disaster. I know NH does it for NRT/HND and maybe it works really well but I think unseasoned "Rougers" would make a meal of it.

Lastly, I can't buy the YWG-YYZ-LHR thing. If you're buying a Rouge ticket, from what I've seen (admittedly haven't done extensive research) it's only cheap if you're flying Rouge and nothing else. YWG-YYZ-LGW would put you on mainline first, and sure if you JUST took the YWG-YYZ the price might be ridiculous, we've all seen that, but they're not likely to sell you the same leg AND LGW for less than they're selling the individual flight. A one off? MAYBE, but certainly never on a regular basis.

When did this reconfig happen? Is it going on for all the 319s? I've flown YYC-LAX and SFO-YVR and both were the 3 seat middle block system. SFO flight was in March.

SparseFlyer

I think the fleet is done/nearly done? It had a date of June 2015 no?

danapop

Yes, I had to fly to YEG-LAX with a weeks notice in Feb 2015. I booked UA Business class via SFO for $220 less than ACr Economy via Vancouver.

Wpgjetse

Came home Rouge yesterday from Edinburgh. Seats were good for day flights(Front), but not that good for night flights. Checked out the Y seats, also looked good.

V9

I will fly to YYZ in the morning, but my connecting flight to YQY on Rouge is in the evening, on a UA award ticket. Any possibility to standby early flight to YQY in YYZ?

Also if not, what can I do in YYZ for 10 hours?

ffsim

Agreed. I've said this before and I'll say it again: the 'preferred' Y seats in the 767 are absolutely fine. I don't know about the Y seats further back and I definitely don't have anything good to say about the 319...

SparseFlyer

I'm the opposite.

I've heard MANY comments about the 319, but barely about the 767 (if I don't count FT, and only "RL" friends).

azj

Just returned home last night on a Rouge 767 flight YVR-HNL. Before I booked, I stirred up a hornets nest enquiring about the differences between Rouge Y and UA Y. In the end, I'm satisfied with the Rouge decision. It was nonstop, which was the biggest bonus. The fare was just slightly more $$ than UA, including baggage fees and premium seating charges. The AC check-in staff was great and the cabin crew on the Rouge flight were average. Overall, it was an average experience. Nobody stood out either way. Cabin was clean, seats okay and the onboard food was not as bad as I was expecting and decently priced as well. Overall, if I'm presented with Rouge as an option, I'd take it, if my regular carriers weren't available.

AC681

YQY is only a once a day flight.

GateGuardian

Does Rouge still fly direct YYZ to HNL 2x a week or that is a seasonal thing?

PlaneWatcherYYC

YYZ-HNL is seasonal, should be back late fall if their running it again.
YVRHNL/YVROGG is year round.

PlaneWatcherYYC

Fleet was completed early June

ACYYZ/SD

ACR just took delivery of fin 694 (ex-Hawaiian Sister Ship to fins 691/692). It's currently flying in its original HA configuration (18/246) & sllated to be Rouged and Winglet-ed in the Fall.