The R Games
#1906
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Toronto, ON
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Gotcha! I was gonna ask what if R becomes positive closer to departure from 0 when requesting it originally, but you read my mind and explained it thoroughly.
Can you please explain the term ‘re-apply’ for R? How do we do it? Just simply cancel thorugh eupgrade site and re-request it again? If R>0, by doing that, it will dibs the available R?
Can you please explain the term ‘re-apply’ for R? How do we do it? Just simply cancel thorugh eupgrade site and re-request it again? If R>0, by doing that, it will dibs the available R?
You're asking two different things.
Yes, when R is positive, then whoever has dibs on R gets those dibs on R. If R goes positive (from R0) before date of departure, it does not necessarily mean that those on the waitlist will automatically get that R based on cow's priority - they have to re-apply for that R. So cow's answers are correct based on what you specifically asked.
If it is waitlisted (R=0) then it goes by what @canadiancow thoroughly answered with.
Yes, when R is positive, then whoever has dibs on R gets those dibs on R. If R goes positive (from R0) before date of departure, it does not necessarily mean that those on the waitlist will automatically get that R based on cow's priority - they have to re-apply for that R. So cow's answers are correct based on what you specifically asked.
If it is waitlisted (R=0) then it goes by what @canadiancow thoroughly answered with.
#1907
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If you are SE, then sometimes your waitlisted upgrade is processed behind the scenes, but this is not necessarily a "common" occurrence.
#1908
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I think I won the R games.
The last time I ended up with an AC flight ticketed in R, it turned out to be a UA mistake fare.
The last time I ended up with an AC flight ticketed in R, it turned out to be a UA mistake fare.
#1909
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE100K, Bonvoy Platinum Elite, IHG Gold, Hertz 5*
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I have an A fare then connecting to a Y/B fare. The latitude fare is already upgraded.
I want to standby/sdc for this tomorrow to catch earlier flights for both.
The second segment I am hoping to catch is J4. Do I get access to that, or would it have to be R>0?
I want to standby/sdc for this tomorrow to catch earlier flights for both.
The second segment I am hoping to catch is J4. Do I get access to that, or would it have to be R>0?
#1910
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For standby, you'll be listed for the cabin you're confirmed in on the confirmed flight, and any cabins you're waitlisted for on a confirmed flight. So a waitlisted or confirmed upgrade request on a later flight will both put you on the list for J on the earlier flight.
#1911
Join Date: Jun 2018
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For standby, you'll be listed for the cabin you're confirmed in on the confirmed flight, and any cabins you're waitlisted for on a confirmed flight. So a waitlisted or confirmed upgrade request on a later flight will both put you on the list for J on the earlier flight.
#1912
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I mean you need to be put on the standby list, so I'd advise an email to the concierge right after you check in (as that gives you time to correct any problems). But it will list your for the correct cabins. I've done this many many times.
#1913
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: YXU/YHZ
Programs: AC SE100k 1MM, HHD
Posts: 17
Unable to upgrade latitude with P>0 R=O on International flight
Booked Latitude B YYZ.LHR return in December. Selected flights with P > 0 but with R=O. AC site at time of purchase and e-up site after purchase show I would be/was waitlisted. Called in SE deck. First 2 tries I hung up when the agent did not understand P-space upgrades. Third agent had prior experience, but she could not process my request. Put me on hold and called yield management desk. Was told it was not routine and would require 24-hours and might not happen. 24-hours later, still wait-listed. Curious/worried that P-space no longer applies to latitude fare Int. upgrades. Any other lines of approach at AC to fix this?
#1914
Join Date: Jun 2018
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Booked Latitude B YYZ.LHR return in December. Selected flights with P > 0 but with R=O. AC site at time of purchase and e-up site after purchase show I would be/was waitlisted. Called in SE deck. First 2 tries I hung up when the agent did not understand P-space upgrades. Third agent had prior experience, but she could not process my request. Put me on hold and called yield management desk. Was told it was not routine and would require 24-hours and might not happen. 24-hours later, still wait-listed. Curious/worried that P-space no longer applies to latitude fare Int. upgrades. Any other lines of approach at AC to fix this?
#1915
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: YVR
Posts: 38
Need some help from the FT gurus here on changes R space will open up for AC33 YVR - SYD. We were lucky and were able to get Aeroplan tickets in J for Feb 16th, but of course getting a spot on Feb 14th or 15th would be nicer!
For today (Jan 26) on AC 33, it current looks like this: J9 C9 D9 Z9 P5 R0
When I check on the AC App it says 27/40 seats are booked with only 6 people waiting for upgrades.
How come AC doesn't open up more R space?
The reason I ask is similarly (at least right now) for the below dates it looks like this:
Feb 14: J9 C9 D5 Z0 P0 R0
Feb 15: J9 C9 D8 Z3 P1 R0
I've been watching these two flights to see if R space will open up, but nothing at all! Do you think R space will open up so I can book with Aeroplan, or it's really not possible and I should stop wasting my time.
Thanks in advance!
For today (Jan 26) on AC 33, it current looks like this: J9 C9 D9 Z9 P5 R0
When I check on the AC App it says 27/40 seats are booked with only 6 people waiting for upgrades.
How come AC doesn't open up more R space?
The reason I ask is similarly (at least right now) for the below dates it looks like this:
Feb 14: J9 C9 D5 Z0 P0 R0
Feb 15: J9 C9 D8 Z3 P1 R0
I've been watching these two flights to see if R space will open up, but nothing at all! Do you think R space will open up so I can book with Aeroplan, or it's really not possible and I should stop wasting my time.
Thanks in advance!
#1917
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE MM; SPG Plat
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Okay, odds makers, how likely is it that R space will open up on AC 856 YYZ-LHR for this upcoming Saturday (22nd)? I'm not looking to upgrade but to use points. I already have a business class seat on a flight through Ottawa but would rather go direct, so would cancel the existing booking and re-book if R opens up.
If it doesn't open up and space is available, any chance they would move me when I arrive at the airport? Any other strategies recommended? I've set an alert for R space on EF.
Flight is quite open in J but not so much in PE or Y ... J9 C9 D9 Z9 P5 R0 O1 E0 N0 Y2 B2 M2 U2 H1 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
If it doesn't open up and space is available, any chance they would move me when I arrive at the airport? Any other strategies recommended? I've set an alert for R space on EF.
Flight is quite open in J but not so much in PE or Y ... J9 C9 D9 Z9 P5 R0 O1 E0 N0 Y2 B2 M2 U2 H1 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
#1920
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Unless it's SE IKK. But PB53x11 , you also need positive space to be able to do that (assuming that's what you're thinking of). If the flight is oversold, even if R>0, you won't be able to book it. Maybe canadiancow would have access to the true load, but that looks like it might be oversold.