Oct 14, 2013, 4:55 pm
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Update 08APR2014: Star Alliance Awards must have been booked by March 30, 2014. They are no longer available through US. This thread is mostly useful for historic purposes, and discussing issues such as schedule changes/route changes that affect FTers existing *A awards booked before 3/31/2014.
Discussion on using US miles to book oneworld awards is available here.
If you are looking for discussion on US's new partner awards that use various partners not in oneworld (many of whom are former *A partners), see the devoted thread on using US miles to book NON-oneworld partners here.
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Update 07JAN14: American Airlines award tickets bookable online on usairways.com or through reservation.
Please see the devoted thread on using US miles to book AA here.
Discussion on using US miles to book oneworld awards is available here.
If you are looking for discussion on US's new partner awards that use various partners not in oneworld (many of whom are former *A partners), see the devoted thread on using US miles to book NON-oneworld partners here.
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Update 07JAN14: American Airlines award tickets bookable online on usairways.com or through reservation.
- Award travel must be wholly on American Airlines or a combination of American Airlines and US Airways.
- American Airlines awards cannot be combined with any of our current partner.
- American Airlines award travel chart (PDF)
Please see the devoted thread on using US miles to book AA here.
Star Alliance Award Bookings Using US Airways Miles - FAQ and Help Thread [MERGED]
Nov 12, 2013, 1:28 pm
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My apologies for not explaining more clearly. Since domestic saver in F is not available to HNL, I was considering a North Asia trip with a stopover in HNL in J or F. In such a case, would the following routing be considered legal?
IAD-ICN/NRT(destination)-HNL(stopover)-NRT-IAD or
IAD-ICN/NRT-HNL(stopover)-NRT(destination)-IAD.
IAD-ICN/NRT(destination)-HNL(stopover)-NRT-IAD or
IAD-ICN/NRT-HNL(stopover)-NRT(destination)-IAD.
Nov 12, 2013, 1:39 pm
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Has anyone been able to book to AKL via ADD or via europe?
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Nov 12, 2013, 2:07 pm
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With the AA/USAirways DOJ settlement annoucement earlier, how late do you guys think I can book *A award ticket with DM?
We are hoping to book something for next May 2014, but we have to wait until New Year 2014 the earliest to book something for May, 2014.
It will be North America to Asia (Region including JPN, KR, etc.).
Any thoughts?
We are hoping to book something for next May 2014, but we have to wait until New Year 2014 the earliest to book something for May, 2014.
It will be North America to Asia (Region including JPN, KR, etc.).
Any thoughts?
Nov 12, 2013, 5:57 pm
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With the AA/USAirways DOJ settlement annoucement earlier, how late do you guys think I can book *A award ticket with DM?
We are hoping to book something for next May 2014, but we have to wait until New Year 2014 the earliest to book something for May, 2014.
It will be North America to Asia (Region including JPN, KR, etc.).
Any thoughts?
We are hoping to book something for next May 2014, but we have to wait until New Year 2014 the earliest to book something for May, 2014.
It will be North America to Asia (Region including JPN, KR, etc.).
Any thoughts?
"The new American will remain loyal to the oneworld alliance, which American co-founded. Scott Kirby further told Frequent Business Traveler that “we intend to move out of Star quickly,” noting that US Airways had already stopped selling tickets for Star Alliance flights and adding that “we hope to move into oneworld in the first quarter of next year.”
You're rolling the dice. Up to you, I guess, but I wouldn't delay booking *A flights for very long.
Nov 12, 2013, 7:29 pm
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My apologies for not explaining more clearly. Since domestic saver in F is not available to HNL, I was considering a North Asia trip with a stopover in HNL in J or F. In such a case, would the following routing be considered legal?
IAD-ICN/NRT(destination)-HNL(stopover)-NRT-IAD or
IAD-ICN/NRT-HNL(stopover)-NRT(destination)-IAD.
IAD-ICN/NRT(destination)-HNL(stopover)-NRT-IAD or
IAD-ICN/NRT-HNL(stopover)-NRT(destination)-IAD.
Your routing would be way over MPM. Either way, you're going to have a one way routing of IAD-NRT-HNL-NRT or NRT-HNL-NRT-IAD which is 14,390 miles, even ignoring the crazy amount of backtracking (~4k miles) the MPM+25 for IAD-NRT is 10,142 miles. The situation with ICN is even worse with a MPM of an extra 250 miles, but distance flown is +~2k miles.
All that being said this is US we're talking about, I remember them issuing a VIE-IST routing via NRT once. You can try, but don't be too disappointed if they tell you're crazy for even trying it.
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Nov 12, 2013, 8:19 pm
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"The new American will remain loyal to the oneworld alliance, which American co-founded. Scott Kirby further told Frequent Business Traveler that “we intend to move out of Star quickly,” noting that US Airways had already stopped selling tickets for Star Alliance flights and adding that “we hope to move into oneworld in the first quarter of next year.”
You're rolling the dice. Up to you, I guess, but I wouldn't delay booking *A flights for very long.
"The new American will remain loyal to the oneworld alliance, which American co-founded. Scott Kirby further told Frequent Business Traveler that “we intend to move out of Star quickly,” noting that US Airways had already stopped selling tickets for Star Alliance flights and adding that “we hope to move into oneworld in the first quarter of next year.”
You're rolling the dice. Up to you, I guess, but I wouldn't delay booking *A flights for very long.
Nov 12, 2013, 8:36 pm
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Question, I apologize if previously covered/
I am contemplating a trip before the departure from star. With the recent "changes" at UA, if I use my US miles, and research the UA flights, then call US to book the flights, is it at the US thresholds or the UA?
I am contemplating a trip before the departure from star. With the recent "changes" at UA, if I use my US miles, and research the UA flights, then call US to book the flights, is it at the US thresholds or the UA?
Nov 12, 2013, 9:06 pm
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You 'pay' in the miles you're using. So if you're using US miles, you follow the US chart, regardless of carrier you fly on.
Nov 12, 2013, 9:37 pm
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Nov 12, 2013, 9:49 pm
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I am looking for 2 business seats on ET from LHR-ADD-NBO in SEPT 2014 , I have been searching on ANA and I can only find 1 seat never 2 on the same flight , do you ever get 2 business seats on the same flight ?
Nov 13, 2013, 12:12 am
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Just booked JFK-NRT-AKL-PVG-NRT-YYZ-LGA. Didn't want to be cute as I saw seats and grabbed them for mid-summer travel!
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Nov 13, 2013, 4:50 am
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According KVS, NZ uses the A-cl as upgrade booking class for premium economy. A-cl is also used as discounted first class booking class within other *A airlines. But this can't apply to NZ as no first class available.
So seen, it would make sense if NZ uses O-cl as award booking class for premium economy... flyerguide.com indeed confirms, that NZ uses O-cl for premium economy...
The availability on a NZ flight says the same:
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.0/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
Maybe someone can book this first class on Lifemiles and give us a feedback, behind wich curtain he flew? ;-)
So seen, it would make sense if NZ uses O-cl as award booking class for premium economy... flyerguide.com indeed confirms, that NZ uses O-cl for premium economy...
The availability on a NZ flight says the same:
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.0/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
Code:
AKL Auckland Intl NZ [NZAA] HKG Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH] TUE 01 Jul 2014 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- NZ 87 AKL 23:00 HKG 06:30 772 C4 D4 Z4 J4 U4 E4 O4 A4 Y7 B7 M7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 T7 L7 S7 G0 X5 K0 P0
a result of sorts.
Nov 13, 2013, 6:04 am
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Scott Kibry said that US had "stopped selling Star tickets" .....does this mean you can no longer redeem US miles for Star awards?
Was going to book a trip shortly....
Was going to book a trip shortly....
Nov 13, 2013, 6:08 am
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Nov 13, 2013, 9:28 am
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"The new American will remain loyal to the oneworld alliance, which American co-founded. Scott Kirby further told Frequent Business Traveler that “we intend to move out of Star quickly,” noting that US Airways had already stopped selling tickets for Star Alliance flights and adding that “we hope to move into oneworld in the first quarter of next year.”
You're rolling the dice. Up to you, I guess, but I wouldn't delay booking *A flights for very long.
"The new American will remain loyal to the oneworld alliance, which American co-founded. Scott Kirby further told Frequent Business Traveler that “we intend to move out of Star quickly,” noting that US Airways had already stopped selling tickets for Star Alliance flights and adding that “we hope to move into oneworld in the first quarter of next year.”
You're rolling the dice. Up to you, I guess, but I wouldn't delay booking *A flights for very long.
I feared this but the time left with DM for use in *A is short...
Darn......
We have to do a lot of thinking and planning now. Thanks for the headsup.