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Old Feb 24, 2021, 7:41 pm
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My Mar 16 HNL-SFO 777-200 has already been swapped to a 787-8 (and of interest probably just to me, gets to SFO 2 minutes faster)

My Mar 22 SFO-HNL 777-200 has been swapped to a polarized version

Both flights booked yesterday with the old 777-200 Hawaii seat maps
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Old Feb 24, 2021, 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37
Is there any chance at all that UA decides to permanently retire all the PW-powered 772s, even though quite a few of them underwent Polaris retrofits not too long ago?
I doubt it. Probably more of a rigorous inspection schedule implemented to check the fan blades required.
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Old Feb 24, 2021, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer
My Mar 16 HNL-SFO 777-200 has already been swapped to a 787-8 (and of interest probably just to me, gets to SFO 2 minutes faster)

My Mar 22 SFO-HNL 777-200 has been swapped to a polarized version
My March 12 HNL-SFO just changed to Polarized 772.
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Old Feb 24, 2021, 9:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
My March 12 HNL-SFO just changed to Polarized 772.
Originally Posted by SPLITTERZ
I doubt it. Probably more of a rigorous inspection schedule implemented to check the fan blades required.
​​​​​​​same with my March 7 ORD to DEN

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Old Feb 24, 2021, 11:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
My March 12 HNL-SFO just changed to Polarized 772.
pmCO with GE-engine?
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Old Feb 24, 2021, 11:28 pm
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Originally Posted by goNorthwestern
same with my March 7 ORD to DEN
Same for Mar 19 ORD-DEN and DEN-HNL. The latter is booked 27/50, yet availability shows 9s across all paid premium buckets. Does that mean they plan on keeping intl config?
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Old Feb 24, 2021, 11:35 pm
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The IAD-LAX citypair previously scheduled on a 772HD / 28 J-seats for 4 March going forward is gone as well. It is now an A320.
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Old Feb 25, 2021, 6:51 am
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
pmCO with GE-engine?
No way to tell until the aircraft is assigned, but presumably so.

What's a bit odd is the OGG flights are being zeroed, while Polarized 772s are being swapped (at least on the schedule) for the HDs (which all have PW) on HNL.
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Old Feb 25, 2021, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
No way to tell until the aircraft is assigned, but presumably so.

What's a bit odd is the OGG flights are being zeroed, while Polarized 772s are being swapped (at least on the schedule) for the HDs (which all have PW) on HNL.
Possible they need the 772s for cargo to HNL and they know the PW HD 772s are more likely to be swapped on the OGG route to a 737 or 757?
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Old Feb 25, 2021, 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by zeus2120
Possible they need the 772s for cargo to HNL and they know the PW HD 772s are more likely to be swapped on the OGG route to a 737 or 757?
That's a good point. But I'd hope they swap in another widebody on OGG. They're going to piss off a whole lot of passengers otherwise. The ones who are buying F from SFO for a family of four and spending $1000+ per night for room(s) in Wailea. That's not a forgiving crowd.
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Old Feb 25, 2021, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by legalalien
Same for Mar 19 ORD-DEN and DEN-HNL. The latter is booked 27/50, yet availability shows 9s across all paid premium buckets. Does that mean they plan on keeping intl config?
Probably. I am hearing United is planning for the entire PW 777 fleet to be out of service for all of March, and potentially longer, depending on what the inspections reveal. HNL is always a key cargo market and is also seeing stronger pax demand than the rest of the system. For that reason I would expect to continue to see widebodies on DEN-HNL, and by virtue of the grounding of the domestic 777s, all will be in the international configuration.
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Old Feb 25, 2021, 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
That's a good point. But I'd hope they swap in another widebody on OGG. They're going to piss off a whole lot of passengers otherwise. The ones who are buying F from SFO for a family of four and spending $1000+ per night for room(s) in Wailea. That's not a forgiving crowd.
100% agree. I fly DEN-OGG and SFO-OGG fairly regularly. I for one am hoping that more of the 46J 767s are brought back into service and find a home on one of the OGG routes while the 772s are out of service. Possible it could happen with JFK and BOS-LHR starting up. 46J 767 has popped up on the ORD-OGG route a few times recently. Would be nice to see it from ORD, DEN, and SFO during the spring break / end of whale season.
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Old Feb 25, 2021, 8:35 am
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Some strange things appearing on the OGG-DEN schedule that lead me to believe the "musical planes" exercise to cover for the grounded HD 777s isn't finished yet.

For example, March 14 is currently showing and selling both a 772 in Polaris config *and* a 752 flight an hour later.

Perhaps the back end systems were tripped up by the beginning of Daylight Savings Time? Unless there's an orphaned aircraft that needs to get back to DEN, the current demand certainly doesn't require that many seats.
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Old Feb 25, 2021, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
The IAD-LAX citypair previously scheduled on a 772HD / 28 J-seats for 4 March going forward is gone as well. It is now an A320.
Same thing for LAX-IAD in the other direction. I saw that 17 seats were taken up front on the seat map before the swap. I suspect there will be some very surprised individuals at check-in time. Thankfully my F seat was preserved.
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Old Feb 25, 2021, 9:17 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
That's a good point. But I'd hope they swap in another widebody on OGG. They're going to piss off a whole lot of passengers otherwise. The ones who are buying F from SFO for a family of four and spending $1000+ per night for room(s) in Wailea. That's not a forgiving crowd.
As I said, I think they will keep the Polaris 772 (or upgauge to 77W) on the one SFO-OGG frequency. Many dates, yours included, have the J cabin almost or completely fully assigned/booked--just look at the EF seatmap for your flight--hence why J is zeroed out. I'm with you that it makes zero business sense to displace more than half the cabin with a downgauge to a narrowbody, but then again, if I ran the show, UA would be a very different airline.
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