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Old Feb 22, 2021, 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by DenverBrian
I'll bet the FA would get many volunteers to snap some pics with a tablet and then allow the FA to take the tablet to the flight deck.
Good point about rear-facing cams.

Chaos and drama are bad enough without asking for volunteers to take pictures for the pilot. And an FAs ill-timed questions on the flight deck is a distraction. I tend to think UA 328s door never opened.
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 3:29 pm
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After a 4-week stay I was booked to fly 352 HNL-SFO on Thursday. Had booked 2 seats in row 49 in both directions for Covid reasons and the fact the rear 4 rows narrow to 2-4-2 config from 3-4-3. 90 minutes before the flight left SFO on Jan 24, I cancelled the 2nd extra seat when it was obvious I wasn’t going to need it. Closest person to me was 4 rows forward on that flight.

Have now switched Thursdays 352, which looks like it *may* operate with a 757 to Tuesday’s 352 which is a 777-300ER. Have cancelled the 2nd seat in Y and replaced with Polaris F.

After a month’s stay, I’ll go home 2 days early to avoid the 757 in Y for 777ER in Polaris. 👍


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Old Feb 22, 2021, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by LegalTender
Good point about rear-facing cams.

Chaos and drama are bad enough without asking for volunteers to take pictures for the pilot. And an FAs ill-timed questions on the flight deck is a distraction. I tend to think UA 328s door never opened.
Yep, I should have prefaced with "If the captain asked..."
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 5:25 pm
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Just landed HNL. 3 777-200’s parked here side by side.
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer
Just landed HNL. 3 777-200’s parked here side by side.
I expect I'll see a few at SFO tomorrow . . . .
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Old Feb 22, 2021, 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
OK, that's UA's proactive rescheduling system finding backup options for you. You'll be able to sort it out at check-in.


Upon further review, I agree. If this flight were next week, you'd be SOL, but since it's today, this is a technical delay and thus UA should be willing to provide a hotel if you misconnect in SFO.
They did put me up at the Hyatt Regency without any trouble, where i sit now.

It seems like they are only swapping aircraft a few days ahead of time. Looking for my return ticket i’m seeing the 772 high density still on the schedule next week.

I hope they take their time with the inspections..
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Old Feb 23, 2021, 11:35 am
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Any ideas what timeframes UA is looking at to inspect and perform needed repairs on those engines/planes?
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Old Feb 23, 2021, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
Any ideas what timeframes UA is looking at to inspect and perform needed repairs on those engines/planes?
That will depend on the results of the inspections and what is found from the analysis of fan blades that failed.

The solution could be as simple as more frequent fan blade inspections or as complex as redesigned fan blades. That would cover anything from 'not very long' to 'quite some time'.
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Old Feb 23, 2021, 12:08 pm
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What would pilots have done if this had happened over the Pacific, halfway between SFO and HNL?
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Old Feb 23, 2021, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Guate87
What would pilots have done if this had happened over the Pacific, halfway between SFO and HNL?
Attempt to continue to HNL if over halfway or return to SFO/other suitable landing airport. Simplified explanation: in order for a plane to go out of range of a landing airport, it needs it to meet a certain ETOPS standard that indicate they can get to the nearest suitable airport on a single engine.
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Old Feb 23, 2021, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Guate87
What would pilots have done if this had happened over the Pacific, halfway between SFO and HNL?
Return to SFO or go on to HNL depending on fuel/range/wind, etc
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Old Feb 23, 2021, 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Lux Flyer
Attempt to continue to HNL if over halfway or return to SFO/other suitable landing airport. Simplified explanation: in order for a plane to go out of range of a landing airport, it needs it to meet a certain ETOPS standard that indicate they can get to the nearest suitable airport on a single engine.
Exactly -- they would have just kept flying to the nearest suitable airport, which in this case is going to be in Hawaii or California. ETOPS planes on that route are designed and fueled to fly on one engine for 3 hours, including at higher fuel burn levels if they had a decompression and had to fly at 10,000 feet. There are even rules about different mechanics working on each engine to avoid a mistake being duplicated.

While 4 engines can feel safer, that can be a false sense of security. There have been cases where an inner 747 engine failed and took out the outer engine on that side also, and 747s are not necessarily able to maintain flying safely on 2 engines, especially on one side.
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Old Feb 23, 2021, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by cesco.g
Any ideas what timeframes UA is looking at to inspect and perform needed repairs on those engines/planes?
Until the FAA publishes an AD that defines the scope of the inspections and any potential repairs nobody knows.
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Old Feb 23, 2021, 6:15 pm
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I am starting to think my SFO-OGG for next weekend might be downgraded from the original Polaris 777. All of a sudden this morning its all zeroed out in all classes
The original schedule was (2) 737s and (1) 757-200 plus the 777

Most definitely not worth the trip up from LA to get stuck on a 737
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Old Feb 23, 2021, 9:53 pm
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Novice here. What is the best way to try to see what type of plane is assigned for a given trip knowing that it is always subject to change up until departure? I have a flight from EWR-SFO that is coming up over the weekend that was scheduled for a 772. From what I can tell the seat map was always showing 18 rows in J so a swap to a 77W was always possible. Not sure if that is what they are most likely to use given the circumstances or if the 777-200ER are also being used on the route. I know it is all a toss up but just curious. Booked row 9 which I assume is pretty much the same in either variant.
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